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Good hymns/worship songs?
Dennis Vogel:
As Ray says: "You've got to pay attention to the WORDS"
Dennis
hillsbororiver:
--- Quote from: DuluthGA on June 21, 2007, 01:04:47 AM ---
SO WHERE"S THE PROBLEM WITH SINGING SONGS THAT DO NOT REPEAT THE SCRIPTURES EXACTLY????
I honestly don't get the line of thought that it would be wrong to sing a simple human song of praise. Would a kind enlightened BT soul please help me out on this?
It is has become interesting to me that [as far as I can tell from my reading of the entire N.T.] that the making of any music AT ALL [in worship or praise] is essentially not referred to [again, AT ALL] in the New Testament. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
So should we hang that (music/the playing of instruments) up too? I an seriously curious about this.
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1Co 14:15 What is it then? I will pray with the spirit and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit and I will sing with the understanding also.
Jam 5:13 Is any among you afflicted? let him pray. Is any merry? let him sing psalms.
Hi Deluth,
There are plenty of references to music/song/singing in the NT but the words being sung must be with understanding and truth and not parroted due to tradition especially when the tradition is based in error.
In regard to music in general or playing instruments like just about anything else these things can be used for good or evil depending on where the heart is, there is nothing inherently wrong with music, quite the opposite, it is a gift from God.
Remember;
1Co 6:12 All things are lawful unto me, but allthings are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.
Temperence and discernment, we need these two things in every part of our life.
1Co 9:25 And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible.
His Peace to you,
Joe
hebrewroots98:
Yes, Paul wilbur is my favorite spiritual group too Ursula; even though I don't listen to him much anymore since I came out of the Messianic groups. I can listen to certain secular songs (rock and roll) and it will literally stir up my emotions to the point to where I begin praising God; (for example, the rock and roll song called "OOO THAT SMELL", since I praise God in knowing that my brothers no longer have that drug problem (praise Him) And then there is a country song that speaks of a man who drank himself to death and how his wife did the same thing out of her deep sadness...it makes me stop and pray for the strength of a certain relative who struggles with alcoholism. Certain others songs bring me joy and makes me smile and makes me just want to get up and dance to the beat of that song only. I think music is such an individual and personal thing. I currently am listening to 2 diff radio stations in order to win my little boy some monster truvck tickets; however, I am definately not into this heavy metal music. Then there are certain triggers that some songs can bring to ones' mind and emotions that are not good triggers to think upon anymore. :o :-*
I used to go to a church that sung only aucapella. I spoke with a woman the other day who is in her 50's and she has lost all joy in her life...imo, it is b/c she has never been allowed to sing along with spiritual songs that use instruments. Talk about a group of depressed people! This is a HUGE spiritual issue for these people that they will never be able to get over in their consciences! ???
skydreamers:
--- Quote ---1Co 14:15 What is it then? I will pray with the spirit and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit and I will sing with the understanding also.
Jam 5:13 Is any among you afflicted? let him pray. Is any merry? let him sing psalms.
Hi Deluth,
There are plenty of references to music/song/singing in the NT but the words being sung must be with understanding and truth and not parroted due to tradition especially when the tradition is based in error.
In regard to music in general or playing instruments like just about anything else these things can be used for good or evil depending on where the heart is, there is nothing inherently wrong with music, quite the opposite, it is a gift from God.
Remember;
1Co 6:12 All things are lawful unto me, but allthings are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.
Temperence and discernment, we need these two things in every part of our life.
1Co 9:25 And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible.
His Peace to you,
Joe
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Hi Joe, thanks for adding that!! For me personally, that just made things all the clearer, thank you thank you....!! ;D
Peace,
Diana
DuluthGA:
Joe "hillsboro river", I have realized YOU ARE SO RIGHT! Yip! :)
Thank you! I AM THANKFUL FOR THE VERSES YOU WERE ABLE TO BRING FORTH regarding this, as I had not found them until now. Many thanks!
I especially like 1Cor 14: 25 that you presented: THE PLAYING OF MUSIC. [millions of thanks, I don't know how I missed this in my search, you are a God send on this matter.]
I very much appreciated 1Cor 6: 12, 1Cor 9: 25 and James 5:13
Thank you again! I knew someone at BT could enlighten me!!! ;D
Double kiss, Caregiver
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