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chuckt:
greetings all, and blessings in Yeshua, Jesus the christ.

many will fight tooth and nail against truth, unwilling to forsake tradition.
seeing they would have to confront the elders and be kicked out of their "synnagouge".

here be some proof text on the fire being temporary:

the lake of fire would be where the demons are punished, correct??

now:

Mat 8:29 And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time?

before the time

literal:

29 And lo! they cry, saying, "What is it to us and to Thee, Son of God! Didst Thou come here to torment us before the season?"

does not season denote a fixed period of time??



Kairos 3:455,389
Phonetic Spelling Parts of Speech
kahee-ros' Noun Masculine

Definition
due measure a measure of time, a larger or smaller portion of time, hence:
a fixed and definite time, the time when things are brought to crisis, the decisive epoch waited for opportune or seasonable time the right time a limited period of time


http://www.scripture4all.org/OnlineInterlinear/NTpdf/mat8.pdf





any thoughts??

peace
chuckt

Kat:

Hi chuckt,


--- Quote ---the lake of fire would be where the demons are punished, correct??

--- End quote ---

That is correct, but the Lake of fire is where all that do not come up in the first resurrection will be cast.

Rev 20:15  And if anyone was not found having been written in the Book of Life, he was cast into the Lake of Fire.

This is talking about the great white throne judgment, where all who have ever lived will be give account and will be purged and saved.

Rev 20:11  And I saw a great white throne, and Him sitting on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away. And a place was not found for them.
v.12  And I saw the dead, the small and the great, stand before God. And books were opened, and another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

And of course you are right, this judgment is temporary  :)

mercy, peace, and love
Kat

rocky:
hi everyone, in light of what chuck wrote re: LOF being temporary, how do we reconcile these verses?

Mar 9:43  And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:

Mar 9:45  And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:

Mar 9:46  Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

Mar 9:48  Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

Mar 9:44  Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.


My thoughts are that LOF is second death; it is will never stop burning in the sense that what is consumes/destroys (carnal), is forever burning and never to come to life again.  The carnal/old covenant man is dead, death will never be resurrected again.

make any sense? 

 

YellowStone:
Hi Rocky,

I believe the term "never shall be quenched" and the matching references of: "fire is not quenched"

Can be taken as they read. No one will quench the fire. However, let us look at it from another angle. If man makes a fire out of wood; how long will it burn if it is not quenched (put out)?

The answer is of course as long as the FUEL supply holds out. This fire will burn itself out. We can use this same analogy with the LOF. This fire is burning / consuming / destroying all of the carnal impurities, false beliefs, infact everything not of the Spirit. Once all is consumed, down to the last hateful thought, the Cleansing Fire will burn itself out. Neither God, or any other will smother the fire, hence it "is not quenched"

I think Ray has written on this somewhere. :)

Love to you in Christ,

Darren

mari_et_pere:
That make sense. Think about it:

You're in a fire. It may be a spiritual fire, but I'm sure it won't be pleasant.  :) So, I imagine the people in that fire would want it quenched. Christ is saying no, that can't happen. It's not done until it's done. Nobody can put this fire out. It's doing it's job, and it's not done yet.

So it burning itself out as it finishes it's job makes sense to me.

Matt

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