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What about the little ones?
gmik:
3 years ago our daughters in laws son had conjoined twins. The doctors gave them 5 minutes to live. But they lived to be 6 months. They were separated about 1 month after birth. They were named Hope and Grace. They were on TV and the news. Churches all over Pennsylvania were praying.
For 6 months these precious girls were never held or cuddled. They endured many surgeries, quite painful. They never could get out of those enclosed glass bassinets. Their mom and dad could only touch them thru those awkward gloves. The doctors kept saying they are not going to make it.
But the parents kept believing God was going to do a miracle and kept telling the doctors to "try that next new thing". When they died we all were in grief. We couldn't believe it. God didn't come thru!! What happened.
Today at the hospital w/ my twin grandboys, we did remember Grace & Hope and started talking about it. The majority opinion was that "faith" replaced "common sense" and we are letting doctors extend life when they shouldn't. I stayed out of the conversation, as I was holding Ethan and couldn't pay attention.
My question. Why was Grace & Hope born if only to die? Why were they experimented on for 6 months if God was only going to have them die anyway? Most Christians believe that the Doctors (not God) were prolonging their time.
Anyway, I don't really expect an answer. I don't want the quick version anyway-it was just Gods' Will. I know that. I am just a little heart heavy to remember them.-when I look at my perfect twin grandsons and think how blessed I am, I can't imagine all the things that COULD go wrong.
I hope Hope and Grace get NO stripes at all! and get ushered right on in!
DizzyD:
fe32k, we also have the scriptures of Matthew 18:1-5:, At the same time came the disciples unto Jesus,saying,Who is the greatest in the Kingdom of heaven?
2: And Jesus called a little child unto him and set him in the mist of them.
3:
And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children , ye shall not enter into the Kingdom of heaven.
4:Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this child, the same is greatest in the Kingdom of heaven.
I think that pretty much tells us what Jesus thought about that
Peace in His name
Bud
DizzyD:
whoops I forgot verse 5
5: And whoso shall recieve one such little child in my name recieveth me.
also, gmik Personaly I don't think infants go through punishment as one who lives to an age that knows the right and wrong ways. I may be wrong but I don't thinkso. I'm sure if I am I will be corrected by someone with eyes more open than mine.
Bud
skydreamers:
Hi Gena,
I don't think there is any easy or comforting answer to the situation with Hope and Grace. But I do know we are all like an interconnected web, and nothing happens to somebody that doesn't affect somebody else. None of us lives in a vacuum. Those two little girls came into the world, and countless people have been affected by their situation. Those directly related, no doubt went through the trial of agony and the experience of not being able to control things. How God uses these situations to intricately teach on levels most are not aware of, is likely yet beyond our full comprehension.
Their lives were not just unto themselves, as our lives are not just for ourselves....we are all in the storm together....God is using the lives of people to bring teaching into the lives of yet other people. Not just teaching, but disciplining, purging, judging, loving, edifying and healing etc. Think of your own life...how have you experienced most things...through objects, material things, creation...yes maybe....but MOSTLY through the interactions we have with other human beings, or through stories and testimonies we've heard.
Those little girls lives hold incredible value and I like to believe that a reward is waiting for them for they have endured already much suffering. Our lives, short or long are for His purposes and to His glory. Whether pain or joy, it is all somehow for the building of character and the molding into his image. I don't understand exactly why all the time either, but I know it must be all part of the "experience of evil to humble us".
Job 1:21
And he said, "Naked I came from my mother's womb, and naked shall I return. The LORD gave, and the LORD has taken away; blessed be the name of the LORD."
Perhaps for tragedies like these, our understanding and comfort will not come until God is all in all.
Peace and love to ya,
Diana
hillsbororiver:
When I was 9 years old my baby sister died at 6 months old, when I was 13 my baby brother died at 1 1/2 years. It broke my heart bitterly as well as my parents and my other sister (2 years younger than me). I hated God for treating my family as He did, both my parents were handicapped and I felt they did not deserve the pain and anguish God was constantly putting them through.
For the next few years I lived like someone who hated everything, it wasn't until my first real girlfriend died when I was 17 that I was broken, helpless and knew I was powerless to do anything about it. It was after Roberta's death that I truly sought Him because I began to realize (through His grace) that this experience on earth was not some random lottery game but that all things had a God given purpose.
Although I first sought Him earnestly at 17, He led me on one incredible roller coaster ride until 34 years later when I "stumbled" onto Bible Truths and real understanding began to open up to me.
Kat & Diana gave beautiful responses here and I agree that those who died so young will "learn righteousness" but will not suffer any punishments for what they experienced in this life, how God will accomplish this would only be pure speculation on my part, I am good in just believing that He has a perfect plan for them.
His Peace to you,
Joe
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