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LittleBear:
Oh, Hi there Earl,
I'd like to welcome you to the forum! It's nice to have you here, and I hope you will post some more.
Yes, in the Pentecostal church, tongues is a biggie. In Acts 2, on the day of Pentecost, they were speaking in other tongues, in other languages. It was not babbling but actually as they were speaking, others heard them and understood them in their own particular tongue.
Acts 2:8 And how is it that we hear, each in our own language in which we were born?
Now, THAT was amazing!
Ursula
Kat:
Hi Earl,
This subject has been adressed in number of emails to Ray, here is one.
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,4162.0.html --------------------
Ray,
I noticed your not real big on speaking in tongues? Is this because it is something you have yet to experience or might you have scripture telling you it isn't for today?
[Ray Replies]
Not only am I not "real big" on speaking in tongues, but I am not even "real small" in the matter.
Paul said this concerning tongues: "whether there be tongues, they shall CEASE." Or in the Concordant Literal New Testament: "languages, they will CEASE." That word translated "cease" is from the Greek word "pauo" and it means: "stop, restrain, quit, desist, COME TO AN END." Is that clear?
If you will notice and take a lesson from Paul's instructions to the Corinthians. He said they they came behind IN NO SPIRITUAL GIFT!! Yet, they were among THE MOST CARNAL CONGREGATIONS OF THE GOD'S CHURCH ON EARTH!!! Those who think "tongues" was a sign of spiritual maturity are sadly mistaken.
After Paul lists all of the gifts that would no longer function, he likens these gifts to the toys of childhood (I Cor. 13:9-11). But when we become MATURE IN CHRIST, we are to put away THESE CHILDISH THINGS. And so Paul then informs us that "NOW [or from NOW ON...] abides, Faith, Hope, and Charity [Love]."
By the way, I have never heard of, nor do I know of a person in the twentieth century or beyond, that could speak in multiple foreign languages in which he had NO FORMAL TRAINING! Do you know of any such person?
Hope that helps your understanding a little better.
Ray
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Ray has a really good article on tongues, the link is below.
http://bible-truths.com/tongues.htm
mercy, peace, and love
Kat
seminole:
Sorry I can't remember who posted this but I think it was referring to Timothy about the last days. I think we all have some of those characteristics that are descrbed. At least I know I do. From the moment we are born we start the road to our last days. Do good and kind to anybody God puts in our paths and make each day a glory to God!
jER:
Here is what was said, to me today!
"Jesus bore our sins in His body. Is that all that He did? No! With sin, there came punishment. He not only bore our sins, he bore the punishment, which we should have had to pay. He bore our sin, so we could have His righteousness. He bore our sicknesses, so we could have His healing and health. He bore our poverty, so we could have His wealth. He bore our sorrow, so we could have His joy. He went to Hell, so we wouldn't have to. He bore it all for us. He was our total and complete substitute for sin and all of its penalties."
"Do you disagree? I can back-up every bit of it with scripture."
- jER
gmik:
Oh yes, that is standard issue prosperity/faith/ blabbing.
Today at a wedding, the lady preacher read all of Deut. 31. Remember the blessings.....versus the curse.......?
Ya know, I feel like skipping all weddings/funerals in the future. I can barely tolerate churchianity teachings anymore.
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