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Robert:
I completely agree with you. I have for years been searching for a faith that answers the apparent contradictions espoused by churchianity, and I found myself becoming more distant from what is typically taught. As Ursula correctly pointed out, some beliefs like the Trinity cannot be explained but they must be held to or one risks being marginalised.
For me, the biggest problem was God’s sovereign will and the belief that many people were just not going to be saved because He didn’t call them. As a Calvinist before discovering Ray’s site, I could already shoot down with scripture the myth of ‘free-will,’ but the conclusion (of Calvinism) was a contradiction of God’s love, justice and mercy.
Ray’s teaching on these important doctrines have renewed for me the joy of my salvation.
Blessings, Rob.   

gmik:
Did you read that email to Ray from Rick??  A couple other threads are talking about it.  Anyway, I believed all that garbage about a "pre Adamic" race that lived here in between Gen l:l and l:2.  I believe Lucifer was a heavenly choir director and was beautiful but got proud.  Ugh, I cannot even continue...

I thought Ezekial flew around in a space ship.  Oh yes!

I believed "sons of God" in Job were from other planets.

How do Christians get so decieved??  I didn't bother to check it out in scripture or w/ common sense!!

ciy:
Gena
I believed some of those also such as the Chariot of the Gods book. 

The things in the church that would get me is like 1 John 2:15 "Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world.  If any man love the world the love of the Father is not in him."  And I would think how could that be when people like Billy Graham were high up in this world.  The church tells us to embrace the world system and I always believed that over the word which very clearly says you have to lose this life in order to gain life. 

Amazing how God set up such perfect deception.
CIY

LittleBear:
Then there is the whole speaking in tongues situation if you are in a pentecostal church. If you really want to be fully accepted and not looked down upon, well, really, you have to learn to speak in tongues. Of course no one there would say you actually LEARN it, because it's a gift God gives you which is for everyone, but you had better be able to do it at some point. There are so many people in pentecostal churches praying earnestly and fervently for the baptism of the Holy Spirit. Funny how on the day of Pentecost, those in the upper room didn't even know that was what was going to happen. No one there was fervently begging God to give them tongues. Also, that they were actually speaking in other languages isn't usually remembered.

Ursula

ciy:
You are right Ursula.

Early on in my search for God, I went to hear Andrew Wommack at a nearby town.  He is moderately famous from Colorado Springs.  At the end of his service he asked who had not received the gift of tongues.  I raised my hand along with many others and we were sent to a room where we would be counciled by experts to receive the gift of tongues. We were told to just pray and speak whatever jibberish came to us and I did.   I never was able to speak in tongues and was disappointed for a while until I began to move out of that phase into the light. 

You know as silly as that looks now I know that I had to go through that to get to where I am now.  When you seek God with all of your heart I think you try several side roads until you find the truth.  I thank God for the path I have traveled.
CIY

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