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mari_et_pere:

--- Quote ---You know many years ago I used to think I wasn't a Christian really because I just couldn't sit through watching TBN or listen to Christian talk radio. It would make me sick. There were families I knew at the time that would have TBN on 24 hours a day practically. I guess Pharisees love being Pharisees.
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Hey Snacks, I totally 100% understand. I've been there! But be careful because the people you can't reach really can't help it. That's the annoying part. That's the frustrating part. They may seem to enjoy their way, but do they really? Did you when you were part of it?

I've sat out of church for a long time. Once in a while I go to appease my wife. Next Sunday I may go because my brother in law is preaching. They think it's disrespect if I don't go. Ugh!

Anyway, my wife goes almost every week. Yesterday she came home and told me about her experience. I guess the youth group led the worship [or song] service. I heard that they were so annointed, that you could feel the presence of God, that it was just beautiful. Was it? I'm not sure because I wasn't there. Can you ever feel the presence of God in church? If so, why? Why would you be able to in a place where they're doing it all wrong? Is it psychological? Is it real? I don't know because I wasn't there, but she's pushing to pull me back in, and I'm resisting as kindly as I can.  :)

But yeah back on topic here.  :-[ I know you want to help as many as you can, but if it's bogging you down then church is no place for you bro. You won't do any good unless God has it in His will to use you for that purpose. Does He? If I were a betting man I'd say no, because how many get called out? Few. How many have you reached? You said a few.

So I'm just saying basically in a nutshell after getting long winded like I do sometimes, that you have no reason for any guilt if you pull out of there. I sense guilt and frustration, which is totally understandable, but it's also unnecessary man. You will have done nothing wrong if you don't go back.

You can only do so much before it becomes futile. We can't shove it down their throats. They have to seek it. We plant seeds, but we can't control the weather.  :)

IMHO

Matt

mrsnacks:
I don't get that one. Feeling the presence of God. God dwells in us. Our body is the temple of the Holy Spirit. Why is it that your wife claims to feel the presence when one goes to the temple or building where God says He doesn't dwell in ? And why didn't she feel His presence on the way to the building when He is living inside her?
How does one know it is God's presence as opposed to the warm fuzzies. I get the warm fuzzies and feel great when being at a concert. Feelings are a poor criteria of truth. God never tells us to go by our feelings. Paul and the other disciples never said Jesus is true because we feel His presence. Where does it say in the Scriptures that one needs to go to the building to feel the presence of God ? It doesn't say "you will feel the truth and it will set you free. "

fe32k:

--- Quote from: mrsnacks on June 18, 2007, 02:09:13 PM ---I don't get that one. Feeling the presence of God. God dwells in us. Our body is the temple of the Holy Spirit. Why is it that your wife claims to feel the presence when one goes to the temple or building where God says He doesn't dwell in ? And why didn't she feel His presence on the way to the building when He is living inside her?
How does one know it is God's presence as opposed to the warm fuzzies. I get the warm fuzzies and feel great when being at a concert. Feelings are a poor criteria of truth. God never tells us to go by our feelings. Paul and the other disciples never said Jesus is true because we feel His presence. Where does it say in the Scriptures that one needs to go to the building to feel the presence of God ? It doesn't say "you will feel the truth and it will set you free. "

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This is not God they are "feeling." How do you know what God feels like? Does evil not feel good sometimes? Do the scriptures describe this feeling? If so where? Does not music you like make you feel good sometimes or feel peace or feel relaxed or whatever? I went to a pentecostal church and in there people would faint, shake, dance in the spirit, etc. I have never seen anyone do this outside of their comfort zone within the temple or church. God is not ashamed of His works and would do it everywhere. These feelings are not necessarily the feeling of being spirit filled, but the mind giving itself some sense of accomplishment or satisfaction or purpose without really doing anything. These feelings are carnal and should be treated as such. I don't want to generalize, so let me say that this may not be the case ALL the time. Only God Knows what goes through these peoples head.

Roy

mrsnacks:
Good point. I recall the pastor saying to the congregation - how can anyone just sit there and not be excited about praising the Lord.Let us a give the Lord a huge hand clap. The whole church went bananas and I just sat there. He was obviously talking about me indirectly. Just because I don't dance and shout and say a bunch of amens I am not into it. I was worshipping the Lord in silence. 

mari_et_pere:
Snacks and Roy, I agree with ya!

Matt

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