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Discernment teaching by Ray
mari_et_pere:
Nole, I know where you're coming from bro. For real. But I hope that you realize that you don't have to fear being on this forum. You have some trepidation about individuals being elevated on a podium above the rest of us right? That's not happening. I guess I can't speak for anyone else, but I, speaking for myself, I would never be here if that were happening. Ray is as lowly as I am, and I'm sure he'd back me up on that one. I consider myself on his level, and him on mine. He knows more than me, and has more time to study more things than I, so I look to him as someone who can teach me. That's it. He's not a little god to me, or someone to fear whatsoever. I had a weird feeling about it for a while, but I realized that these people, meaning the others who were here before me, aren't blindly following Ray. They just respect the heck out of him for what he teaches. He got all he has from God so to God, not Ray Smith, be the glory. I'm sure everyone here agrees with me.
Like I said in a previous post of mine, I'd turn my back on him in 1 millisecond if he started getting all freaky weirdo David Koresh on us. That's not my cup of tea. What is my cup of tea is some dude who just happens to be more insightful than I am, and so because of that I can learn from the dude.
He has my respect, but not my blind loyalty.
That's my two cents on him.
Peace Nole.
Matt
gmik:
--- Quote from: Arcturus on June 17, 2007, 01:13:11 PM ---Gena, your grandchildren are a blessing and gift! What a bonus from our Lord to you and your family! I am very happy for you! and Matt is a big kid at heart helping and encouraging! :D ;D
Peace be to you
Arcturus :)
Thanks Arc. ;D
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mrsnacks:
Well said. ;D
skydreamers:
Matt, that was really well said. :)
Just as our bodies have many parts and each part has a special function, so it is with Christ's body. We are all parts of his one body, and each of us has different work to do. And since we are all one body in Christ, we belong to each other, and each of us needs all the others. God has given each of us the ability to do certain things well. So if God has given you the ability to prophesy, speak out when you have faith that God is speaking through you. If your gift is that of serving others, serve them well. If you are a teacher, do a good job of teaching. If your gift is to encourage others, do it! If you have money, share it generously. If God has given you leadership ability, take the responsibility seriously. And if you have a gift for showing kindness to others, do it gladly. Don't just pretend that you love others. Really love them. Hate what is wrong. Stand on the side of the good. Love each other with genuine affection,[2] and take delight in honoring each other.
Romans 12:4-10
I feel Ray has been given the gift of teaching, and according to scripture there is nothing wrong with "taking delight in honoring" him in that. But I honor also the rest of the body, the members of this forum who also teach, encourage and gladly show kindness to others.
All praise to the father,
Peace,
Diana
Robert:
Hi, Seminole.
Possibly your question has already been answered adequately.
I hope no-one looks to Ray as some kind of prophet or ‘super apostle.’ Like all of us, he has one or more of the gifts of the Spirit. And it is reasonable to say his gift from God is teaching. In 1 Timothy 5v17 it says: Let the elders that rule well be counted worthy of double honour, especially they who labour in the word and doctrine.
Personally, I give Ray ‘double honour’ for his labour in the Word and in presenting doctrine in a way we can be edified by it.
What I particularly like about bible-truths is that Ray presents doctrine for the world to see, and although many detractors may not understand (like who this post is referring to) it does show that these teachings are robust and stand up to scrutiny.
Blessings in Christ, Rob.
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