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YellowStone:
Hi Susan,
You wrote: "we can still have out preferences as to how close we allow ourselves to become to certain people. "
Yes we do, we have "our" preferences, but do we really? Do we really have the power to choose of whom we associate or not? Is this saying that one can do something on ones own, by their understanding?
This is REALLY difficicult, because if by the grace of God, we can do nothing outside of His plan then surely neither can any other. God is the Master potter and we are the work of his hands; to say that one pot is better, prettier, more useful than another is the first mistake we can make, for are we not then saying: "Boy, God you really messed up on that one!"
God cannot create anything imperfectly, we cannot see through his eyes, but by his grace, we can feel his spirit and we will never help the Samaritan, betean and left for dead on the side of the road, by distancing our selves from him, rather we must walk through the same valley of the shadow of death as he. What better and needful place could there possibly be to bare the fruits of the spirit?
Gal 5:22, 23 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
This is how I see it Susan; you are a good friend and a valued sister :)
Love in Christ,
Darren
hebrewroots98:
Hi Darren,
In response to your response to my statement about us having preferences, No, of course this is not to say that we/ I can do something on my/one's own without God, by my understanding is that I am simply choosing between the choices that have been given to me by HIM, thus I call it my preference Thus, my prefernce is really what God would have me to choose; it is the only choice ultimately. I did not want to give the impression that I thought that God can be imperfect when I spoke of using my preferences.
The homeschoolers who have created a clique within our already exclusive hs group does not want US to be around them or in their teaching co-op/sharing clique and playtimes and even with personal get togethers. even though there are to not be support groups within our group so; we will just give them what they want; we will just not participate in their homeschool clique that they do not want us to be a part of, so we will leave them alone so that they can have their own co-op. It would do us no good to try to invade their clique wiyhin our group. They have seen my fruits for going on three yrs so far, I and I see it as though I fight not against flesh and blood humans, rather their the spirits within
hebrewroots98:
Hmmm, I must have been too tired last night and hit the send button before I had finished (sorry.) ???
Darren, I hope that you are not saying that I am saying that I think that I (a pot) am a better than these homeschoolers (pots), b/c I do not think that; we are all have equal opportuntiy in the end and we are all where God has put us, (diff callings) all are called and few others are chosen if they finish the race...He made us all equal but different in this life; that does not equal 'better than thou'; just being where God put us (vessles of honor and vessles of dishonor), we all are exactly where we are supposed to be in Him, so no use to think that we are better just b/c we have been given more truths than the 'called' have been given. True Darren, those whom God made are by no means IMPERFECT just b/c they haven't had the truth revealed to them uet.
What I was going to say is that I think that we have perservered through much cruelty by them by having spent 3 long yrs and much love, kindness, pateience, time, labor,money and service in order to assist in the co-ops along with the other mothers to no avail in the ling run; we loved them and forgave them and loved our enemies...even though we have been persecuted, unloved, used, ignored, despised, gossipped about, lied on, made to feel guilty if I didn't do what they thought I should at the time that they thought I should do it, etc...so in submitting to my dh, my spiritual covering, he says to leave them alone, so that is also why we are pulling out.
darren, I too appreciate yu as a friend and a brother in Christ. I can always count on you to sharpen my sword with yours! Thank you for caring. Have a blessed day and much love to you!!! :D
YellowStone:
Hi Susan :)
I think this is really where the rubber meets the road. I am sorry for putting you on the spot, but I think you responded perfectly.
It can be very difficult deciding what to do, I mean we can ask ourselves: "What does God want me to do?" and rack our brains trying to seminate an answer. Likewise, we can ask God himself: "God, what do you want me to do?" Sounds reasonable but the trick is hearing the answer. I know I used to ask God lot's of things, and then I would see many answers, often conflicting ones, because I was using my own understanding to try to fathom what God was "trying" to tell me.
Hang on a minute, God doesn't try anything. He simply does! That realization was massive and put me in my place, for God's answers were not something I had to work out, they were what I had to learn to hear (feel) For His Spirit communicates to the spirit in me, seperate from any human thought process. And I think this is where you are now Susan. :)
We do not have to beat ourselves up for failing to make people understand, neither do we have to think that God does not want us to associate with the likes of those you mention. Rather, all we need is complete trust in him and and the knowledge that He will lead us where he wants us to go. He is leading you in the direction you need to go. :)
Thanks Susan,
Love in Christ,
Darren
hebrewroots98:
ALAS...TRUE DISCERNMENT HAS BEEN REVEALED TO ME...(THANK YOU LORD), (AND I THANK THOSE OF YOU WHOM CARED ENOUGH TO PROVOKE MY THINKING HERE.) :D ALL IS WELL WITH MY SOUL NOW. :D
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