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mrsnacks:
Another new post .

Going to church gives me a lot of material to work with (smile) .

I hear so much from the pulpit of the need for the Christian to get into the Word. To spend quiet time with the Lord. To stop doing this and that and start doing things that are pleasing to God.

And I get the sense that Christian life is nothing more than overcoming and conquering the flesh with God's help. In a sense all this is true. But you walk out feeling like life is just one test after another. Life is showing you how much you need to get your act together with God's help.  Then dealing with crises and conflicts that are molding us and building us into Christ likeness. Christians  deep inside - are unhappy people. They smile and say they have joy but it is a fake in many. Sort of like when you are embarrassed when you fall down accidentally in public and someone says "are you alright?" - You are hurting but you say "I am okay ."

But the Word clearly says God is in charge of our sanctification. He is the one performing the work in us. So these struggles in our lives are there for a reason and some things take time. But I would think He will transform the areas in our lives in His own time right ? So we should not be all frustrated when we have these areas that need transforming. He is transforming us. He is in charge. In making us the kind of people who live the Christ life naturally. It must flow out of us naturally. Sort of like I don't do drugs , get drunk ,or act unlovingly to someone not because it is a God's law but because He has transformed me into the kind of person who doesn't desire to do these things.

So the sermons each week are sort of like the long lectures my dad gave me growing up. I would say " here he goes again with the lecture."   :-\

Robin:
I always think of it as circumcision. The flesh is not transformed, it is cut away. I think that's where I have the biggest problem with that teaching. Everyone is trying to make the flesh good flesh instead of having their heart circumcised. The carnal has to die. It cannot change into something good.

Kat:

Hi M.G.,

That is a very good point you made.

mrsnacks you were saying how going to church gives you things to work with, and;


--- Quote ---Christians  deep inside - are unhappy people. They smile and say they have joy but it is a fake in many.
--- End quote ---

This is what Christ said about the church leaders.

Mat 15:7  You hypocrites! Well did Isaiah prophesy of you, when he said:
v. 8  "'This people honors Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me;
v. 9  in vain do they worship Me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.'"
v. 10  And He called the people to Him and said to them, "Hear and understand:
v. 11  it is not what goes into the mouth that defiles a person, but what comes out of the mouth; this defiles a person."
v. 12  Then the disciples came and said to Him, "Do you know that the Pharisees were offended when they heard this saying?"
v. 13  He answered, "Every plant that my heavenly Father has not planted will be rooted up.
v. 14  Let them alone; they are blind guides. And if the blind lead the blind, both will fall into a pit."

mercy, peace, and love
Kat

mrsnacks:
Interesting thing stuck out in that verse. The blind can only lead those that are blind. The ones that see don't follow those that are blind. Therefore we don't fall into the pit.

Good point MG about the flesh. So what is transformed or needs to be ?

DuluthGA:
Hello Brother Snacks, I sort of "see" your question within your thoughts.   

I will tell you my first-off response, and it is simple:  I am getting ready to become a spiritual being.  All the physical stuff is going to get hung up, and yes, 'You-Know-Who' IS IN CHARGE of this process.

So I definitely agree, "we should not at all get frustrated when we have these areas (in our lives) that need transforming."  HE IS TRANSFORMING US.

With what we've already been Given, can we not always ask for more (of His Spirit)?  Are we all not G-R-O-W-I-N-G?  I am with you in spirit...

Take care, Caregiver


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