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Interesting video about Homosexuality and the bible, its real short!
lilitalienboi16:
Yea its a short video i promise :)
Heres the link below, not sure how it will come up if i try to directly link it, but check it out, and comment. I found it interesting, don't know how much truth their is to that approach really, but definatly interesting. Perhaps anyone can tell me if the 'president' made any valid points in the video?
God bless,
Alex
Prosizz:
It is quite clear the president is trying to ridicule anyone who thinks Homosexuality is wrong especially if that person quotes the Bible as supporting evidence. Clearly he is promoting homosexuality. No question about it! I may add that those are the people who read the scriptures and make a mockery of God.
They shall answer in judgement.
lilitalienboi16:
--- Quote from: Prosizz on June 20, 2007, 08:44:44 PM ---It is quite clear the president is trying to ridicule anyone who thinks Homosexuality is wrong especially if that person quotes the Bible as supporting evidence. Clearly he is promoting homosexuality. No question about it! I may add that those are the people who read the scriptures and make a mockery of God.
They shall answer in judgement.
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I saw it differently, and let me explain.
What the lady was doing was going on her show and calling homosexuality an abominitation.
That would be like telling everyone who 'hates' there brother that they are an abomination because thats murder in the eyes of God.
Didn't Christ say to worry about the beam in our own eyes before judgeing the spec in our brothers? And if We are all in adam, then are not homosexuals, the way they are because God has willed it? I mean the only reason that keeps me from bieng another hitler is God Himself, and not me.
Lets take that one more step and saying the only reason i'm not a homosexual is because God has kept this sin away from me, so who am i to go on a show and condemn and call homosexuals an abomination?
Now i never was to sure about this, but i don't recall reading anywhere in the bible that one sin is greater then another, so isn't homosexuality just another sin? Only God should judge them, should we not love them and treat them with respect rather then calling them an abomination?
Perhaps i am wrong and perhaps the bible does say some sins are greater then others, but if it does, i never read it.
Ill leave the judgeing up to God, and i think the lady in this video was so very wrong in doing what she did. I disagree with homosexuality as it is a sin, but i also disagree with murder, rape, hateing your enemies, etc.. but i certainly don't bash anyone over the head with a club who does these things, because i know i would be just the same because i too am in adam just as they are and the only reason i don't do these sins is because the Lord Almighty has kept me from them. Is this not the understanding of the Word, or am i off base?
I'm open to correction, just looking for the answers the mind of Christ would give.
Love in Christ,
Alex
Beloved:
The question is .....Did “this President” make any valid points?
Not one iota that matters spiritually. All his points were in the physical.
Today as TRUTH and morality are being steadily chipped away (the world waxing worse and worse), the people of the seas (Hollywood athesists and liberal etc) are able to throw these carnal centered ideas back into the faces of the people of the earth( the Christian Babylonian church)
Judaism is the 1st beast (that came out of the sea) and the present day church is the second beast (collective) that embraces physical Judaism makes an image to the first beast (look how they defend the 10 commandments etc). But they follow another jesus and each has their (individual) beast on His throne. There is no truth in them so this provides the fodder that the world can throw back in their face.
Rev 13:12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
(Rev 13:13 KJVR) And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
Rev 13:14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
(you may have to read revelation 13 to see thisto understand the (collective) beast vs the (indidual) beast
We understand that everything in the spiritual
The Laws are only school guides and serve as God's stumbling blocks to the blind.
A. Working on the Sabbath is not resting in God to do the Works but in man trying to attain it on his own
B. Mixing fibers or mixing plants is mixing the spirital with the carbal. Flesh profits nothing so we do not want to do it.
C. Touching the “Pig” Mixing our spiritual house (heavenly) with the world (sea or earth)
D. Homosexuality an abomination :
Adultery is engaging spiritually with anything outside of God : a marriage relationship is God’s ideal relationship. Homosexuality is not a greater sin.... it is anothey type of sin... it misses the mark like other sin . All sin is unacceptable to God.
Homosexuality as a subset and it shows the true depth of man's iniquity because it is analogous spiritually to having an adulterous relationship with self. Mankind spiritually in love with himself
(As most of you may know the spiritual meaning of the Law and OT and NT commandments are very deep and beautiful ....please excuse my abbreviated interpretations above)
This video is simply another attempt by Hollywood (the world) to validate their own lascivious way of living by ridiculing ”the Law” because to them it is archaic foolishness, The church and its blindness have encouraged this blaspheming because it is totally corrupt and foolish in the worlds eyes.
Notice the “deer in the headlight” look of the woman who portrays a Christian who has not studied the word and does not show herself approved by God and therefore cannot preach the word and refute those who contradict it.
Beloved
I am sorry that this post might sound too blunt but it has been a hard day
:) :) :) :) :)
lilitalienboi16:
--- Quote from: Beloved on June 20, 2007, 09:19:31 PM ---The question is .....Did “this President” make any valid points?
Not one iota that matters spiritually. All his points were in the physical.
Today as TRUTH and morality are being steadily chipped away (the world waxing worse and worse), the people of the seas (Hollywood athesists and liberal etc) are able to throw these carnal centered ideas back into the faces of the people of the earth( the Christian Babylonian church)
Judaism is the 1st beast (that came out of the sea) and the present day church is the second beast (collective) that embraces physical Judaism makes an image to the first beast (look how they defend the 10 commandments etc). But they follow another jesus and each has their (individual) beast on His throne. There is no truth in them so this provides the fodder that the world can throw back in their face.
Rev 13:12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
(Rev 13:13 KJVR) And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
Rev 13:14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
(you may have to read revelation 13 to see thisto understand the (collective) beast vs the (indidual) beast
We understand that everything in the spiritual
The Laws are only school guides and serve as God's stumbling blocks to the blind.
A. Working on the Sabbath is not resting in God to do the Works but in man trying to attain it on his own
B. Mixing fibers or mixing plants is mixing the spirital with the carbal. Flesh profits nothing so we do not want to do it.
C. Touching the “Pig” Mixing our spiritual house (heavenly) with the world (sea or earth)
D. Homosexuality an abomination :
Adultery is engaging spiritually with anything outside of God : a marriage relationship is God’s ideal relationship. Homosexuality is not a greater sin.... it is anothey type of sin... it misses the mark like other sin . All sin is unacceptable to God.
Homosexuality as a subset and it shows the true depth of man's iniquity because it is analogous spiritually to having an adulterous relationship with self. Mankind spiritually in love with himself
(As most of you may know the spiritual meaning of the Law and OT and NT commandments are very deep and beautiful ....please excuse my abbreviated interpretations above)
This video is simply another attempt by Hollywood (the world) to validate their own lascivious way of living by ridiculing ”the Law” because to them it is archaic foolishness, The church and its blindness have encouraged this blaspheming because it is totally corrupt and foolish in the worlds eyes.
Notice the “deer in the headlight” look of the woman who portrays a Christian who has not studied the word and does not show herself approved by God and therefore cannot preach the word and refute those who contradict it.
Beloved
I am sorry that this post might sound too blunt but it has been a hard day
:) :) :) :) :)
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No i see what you're saying, but i wasn't talking about seeing spiritual versus the natural, i was talking about this womens actions.
Is it justified to go on TV and tell everyone that gays are an abomination? This is a seriouse question but i don't know. I thought we were suppose to do this sort of stuff, and just live and grow in Christ and be ready to give an answer to whomever God sends our way. Not go out into the world and try and condemn everyone because we ourselves have big huge beems in our own eyes, do we not?
I'm getitng confused here, should the lady have been ablet o defend herself? is there any defense against what was said to her, for what she brought upon herself, or was what was brought upon her a result of correct action on her part and something she should have been able to defend? Because i honostly think what she reaped was what she sowed right there.
Answers? I'm getting confused lol
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