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Zade:
Hello, I'm new here.

I have a question about being "called."

Matthew 22:14: "Many are called, but few are chosen"

From this we know that not all who are "called" will be in the Kingdom of God. Only the chosen few have eonian life because "narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it."

Romans 8:30: "Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified."

From Matthew it seems being called is not grounds for glorification because many are called, but in Romans 8 here it says (indirectly) that whoever he calls he glorifies.

Thanks

seminole:
"Many called few chosen" , a "camel going through the eye of a needle" all are basically saying that many have the knowledge of Jesus Christ and He "calls out" to many but not many answer and accept His call for salvation.

Zade:
Falcon, I'm sorry, but I don't see where I'm making assumptions.

Matthew 22:3: He dispatched his servants to summon the invited guests to the feast, but they refused to come.

Am I correct that these guests were called (NIV says invited) to the feast?

Gathered all they found, bad and good alike, 5 and the hall was filled with guests.

Am I correct that these guests were also called/invited to the feast?

So "many are called" to the feast, but not all who are called to the feast eat at the feast. Some called refuse the feast, and one called came to the feast and was unworthy of being there. So not all of the called eat at the feast, but from Romans 8 it seems that all of the called eat at the feast.

If I'm going wrong somewhere please tell me where. I've read nearly all of Ray's writings.

Thank you

skydreamers:
Hi Zade,

Welcome to the forum!

I think you have a valid question, in that it does seem like Romans is referring to the "many called".

Perhaps the key is in the original words used.  In Romans, the word used in "them he also called" is defined by Thayer as follows:

[u]kaleō[/u]

1) to call
1a) to call aloud, utter in a loud voice
1b) to invite
2) to call, i.e. to name, by name
2a) to give a name to
2a1) to receive the name of, receive as a name
2a2) to give some name to one, call his name
2b) to be called, i.e. to bear a name or title (among men)
2c) to salute one by name



 By using E-sword, I found out that there are different words used in Mathew 22:14


For many are called, but few are chosen."
Matthew 22:14

Here the word for called is:

klētos

1) called, invited (to a banquet)
1a) invited (by God in the proclamation of the Gospel) to obtain eternal salvation in the kingdom through Christ
1b) called to (the discharge of) some office
1b1) divinely selected and appointed

And for chosen:

eklektos

1) picked out, chosen
1a) chosen by God
1a1) to obtain salvation through Christ
1a1a) Christians are called “chosen or elect” of God
1a2) the Messiah in called “elect”, as appointed by God to the most exalted office conceivable
1a3) choice, select, i.e. the best of its kind or class, excellence preeminent: applied to certain individual Christians


So although Thayer seems to think the called and the chosen are the same, he nonetheless notes some key differences which are helpful to us.  The chosen are indeed "the best of their kind". 

Now, keep in mind, the Chosen (Elect) are "called out" of the Called.

So to me, Romans is still speaking of the Elect who were "called" (called by name...since God knows the name of his Chosen, it makes sense that he would spiritually call them by name within their spirits....)

This is not the same meaning as "the many called" in Matthew, who are "invited to the banquet" but not specially and specifically called by name, as the Elect are.

Hope that made sense....

Gotta run.

Peace and God bless us and give us wisdom,
Diana

Beloved:
Diane I agree  with Roger the chosen are not the best of their kind 


(1Co 1:26 KJVR)  For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:

(1Co 1:27 KJVR)  But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;

(1Co 1:28 KJVR)  And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to naught things that are:

(1Co 1:29 KJVR)  That no flesh should glory in his presence.

(1Co 1:30 KJVR)  But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us
wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:

(1Co 1:31 KJVR)  That, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.


The elect are not special from.... the human perspective... they are being used by God for His special purpose.



(Rom 12:1 KJVR)  I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.

Beloved   :D


Roger ....Trix are bad for Kids  ;D ;D ;D...... just Madison Ave Baloney ;D ;D ;D

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