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The Marriage Feast
Chris R:
Hi Kat,
after reading your thread i noticed something i hadnt before.
And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless,
Friend [ἑταῖρος]
a comrade, mate, partner
2) in kindly address
a) friend, (my good friend)
I thought it odd in the parable the the king addressed him as "freind" before he was cast out into outer darkness.
What do you all think?
Chris R
Kat:
Hi Chris,
I noticed that too.
What I think it must mean, is there are those in the church who have been duped into believe that they have Christ. They have naively went along with what they have been taught. I personally know some really good people in the church, but they are convinced they are saved now. I don't think these people are enemies of Christ, but they must still go through the Lake of fire.
Well that's what I think :)
mercy, peace, and love
Kat
hillsbororiver:
This may not represent only those still in Babylonian institutions/denominations but also to some who have come out of her yet did not endure to the end, one idol or another ensnared them even as they fellowshipped with the brethren.
Even the "chosen" must endure;
Joh 6:70 Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?
Psa 41:9 Yea, mine own familiar friend, in whom I trusted, which did eat of my bread, hath lifted up his heel against me.
Psa 88:18 Lover and friend hast thou put far from me, and mine acquaintance into darkness.
His Peace to you,
Joe
Kat:
Hi Joe,
That is a good point, only those who are faithful to the end, that is the end of this life or Christ's return whichever comes first. They will be in the first resurrection, they will escape the wrath of God.
Luk 21:36 But watch at all times, praying that you may have strength to escape all these things that will take place, and to stand before the Son of man."
Rev 17:14 They will make war on the Lamb, and the Lamb will conquer them, for he is Lord of lords and King of kings, and those with Him are called and chosen and faithful."
Craig, I have done a farther study on the word 'friend.' Christ used the word on a number of occasions, but I found 2 meanings for the word.
Strong's G2083 hetairos; a comrade: - fellow, friend.
This sounds like more of an associate or aquaintance.
And there is this also;
Strong's G5384 philos; Properly dear, that is, a friend; actively fond, that is, friendly.
This is more a relationship with someone you know and are fond of.
So in the parable of the marriage feast, Matt. 22:12 ...''Friend(hetairos), how did you get in here without a wedding garment?'' The word freind here is 'hetairos,' this would mean a comrade, but not someone you would necessarily be fond of.
I could only find 2 other places where Jesus used the word friend with the meaning 'hetairos,' one is when He addresses Judas.
Matt 26:50 Jesus said to him, "Friend(hetairos), do what you came to do." Then they came up and laid hands on Jesus and seized Him.
The other is in the parable of the workers in the vineyard. At the end of this parable when Christ was handed out wage, some murmured or grumbled. Christ adressed one of them 'friend' (hetairos).
Mat 20:8 So when evening had come, the Lord of the vineyard said to His steward, Call the laborers and pay them their wage, beginning from the last to the first.
v. 9 And when they who were hired about the eleventh hour came, they each one received a denarius.
v. 10 But when the first came, they supposed that they would received more; and they also each one received a denarius.
v. 11 And receiving it they murmured against the Master of the house,
v. 12 saying, These last have worked only one hour, and you have made them equal to us who have borne the burden and heat of the day.
v. 13 But He answered one of them and said, Friend(hetairos), I do you no wrong. Did you not agree with me for a denarius?
v. 14 Take yours, and go; I will give to this last one the same as to you.
v. 15 Is it not lawful for me to do what I want with my own? Is your eye evil because I am good?
v. 16 So the last shall be first, and the first last, for many are called, but few are chosen.
I wondered about the ones that 'grumbled' about what the Lord had done and He said "is your eye evil," which has to do with envy. And He also said, "Take yours, and go," what does He mean by 'go'? And He ends by saying, "for many are called, but few are chosen." This doesn't seem to have a good outcome for the 'freind' that 'grumbled' :-\
mercy, peace, and love
Kat
skydreamers:
Hi Kat,
It is interesting that John the Baptist knew he was not part of "the bride" but called himself the "friend/philos" of the bridegroom.
John 3:29
The one who has the bride is the bridegroom. The friend of the bridegroom, who stands and hears him, rejoices greatly at the bridegroom's voice. Therefore this joy of mine is now complete.
Revelation 19:7-8
7 Let us rejoice and exult and give him the glory, for the marriage of the Lamb has come, and his Bride has made herself ready;
8 it was granted her to clothe herself with fine linen, bright and pure"-- for the fine linen is the righteous deeds of the saints.
--- Quote ---Luke 14:12 He said also to the man who had invited him, "When you give a dinner or a banquet, do not invite your friends or your brothers or your relatives or rich neighbors, lest they also invite you in return and you be repaid.
v. 13 But when you give a feast, invite the poor, the crippled, the lame, the blind,
v. 14 and you will be blessed, because they cannot repay you. You will be repaid at the resurrection of the just."
--- End quote ---
Revelation 22:15
15 Outside are the dogs and the sorcerers and the immoral persons and the murderers and the idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices lying.
but a couple of verses later....
Revelation 22:17
17 And the Spirit and the bride say, "Come." And let the one who hears say, "Come." And let the one who is thirsty come; let the one who wishes take the water of life without cost.
Who could this invitation be to other than the dogs, sorcerers and immoral persons etc etc, because the righteous ones (the bride/Elect) and the spirit are the ones saying "come".
It still is amazing to me to think that great men of God like John the Baptist will not be a part of the Bride/Elect..... :o ???
Peace,
Diana
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