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Back to Babylon?
dogcombat:
Wow Matt,
That was SOME story about your life. You already know that most in Babylon hold on to their favorite idols of the heart. Sadly, you also know that unless Babylonians are TOLD what to think, they WON'T think at all. In fact, speaking of mrsnacks, he's recently posted that he's feeling that he should leave the church he's attending, feeling as though God is calling him out. As for your kids, I think you're worrying about them digesting what I call "a pound of lies" , that consists of 1 oz truth plus 15oz of heresy. Meaning we can get so desperate for that 1 oz of truth, we'll swallow stuff that isn't good for us.
All I can do is encourage you to go where the Spirit leads.
God be with you
Ches
mari_et_pere:
Ches, yeah I remember Snack's thread you refer to. I've thought of the 15 oz of lies vs the 1 oz of truth. But you see, they're going to be there eating that pound of lies wether I'm there or not.
I don't know...
Matt
jackson:
Matt, I feal your pain. :'(
I think we're living parrallel lives! ;D
In fact after reading your last thread concerning this subject I had considered pm'ing you about what you are now posting.
My up most concern is for my girls. I don't want them confused by the carnal churchs doctrines but at the same time they do enjoy Sunday school (thats all I'll allow); not to mention the fact that their mother insist on their attendence. The issue with my wife is all together another battle.
But as for the girls I have reluctantly concented on the Sunday school matter. And this is how I justify it: (I'm sure there are plenty of readers who will be ready, willing and able to admonish me for this so......bring it on) I don't see Babylon just in the world church; its at the mall, at school, on tv and radio, etc, etc, etc; and lets face it you just can't shelter them but so much. I really don't consider any one of these things any more "evil" than another one. In fact I believe eliminating one (say the church for example) would just serve to strengthen the others.
So they go to Sunday school and do arts and crafts and play with friends and if some doctrine comes home with them its Ok. How can I say that you ask? Because I'm at home; and just like when they come home from school or the mall or sleep overs I'm there waiting with the truth ready to refute any secular or church doctrine that might manifest itself.
God has charged me with the responsibility of those 2 girls and through Him they will be raised up in the truth. This is not a job for the faint of heart or a man weak in his convictions. Matt, I can tell that you walk strong in the Lord. I know He will move you to the right conclusion; and that could very well be different from mine. Just remember my Brother, God has chosen you as a guardian to some very special people. But the church is not all you have to guard against. We cannot afford to underestimate the devil; he has many tools and uses them all with equal fervosity.
Jackson
ciy:
This is not to be taken as advice or a suggestion to not go back to church. It is just something that comes to mind as I read this thread.
In the book of Numbers 14th chapter, there is somewhat of a climax to the wilderness experience. The majority of Israelites wanted to return to Egypt. God did not say "Ok I tell you what. Let your children go back to Egypt to learn the ways of Egypt." What he did was since they wanted to return to Egypt so bad that they wished they had died. He gave them their wish to die and made them wander around for 40 years in the wilderness so that they could all die off. In the mean time, their children learned the ways of God and were able to go into the promise land with Joshua and Caleb.
Again not advice just pondering some scripture.
CIY
gmik:
Wow, what a story Matt. Gave me chills. Also shows the Glory of the Father when He redeems someone!!!!
My daughter is still in church and I have thought from time to time (ok, alot) about the grandchildren being in church. My son gave me a direct order not to ever speak to his kids about "this crap".(He doesn't even have kids!) So I will just trust the Lord and hopefully over the years read the scriptures to them. As Diana pointed out, God has ways to find us where ever we are.
You said on another thread that your stomach turned when you were in church Mothers Day. Can you take that week after week?
As far as my advice goes-I only have grandmotherly advice to you.
Your family is very important to you. It would show your wife how much you love her & the kids. You could have fellowship w/ the in-laws. Maybe, just maybe, a word fitly spoken here and there will open doors to your wife willing to listen. Who knows? It may only just be for a season.
My sheep hear my Voice. You can hear Him. I will support you no matter. You have proven to me, that you are a man of God-a mighty man of Valor ;)
Just keep us posted!!!!
Jackson, you are right about Sunday School. Games, arts & crafts, food, music, and Bible stories. Very little doctrine. I liked your point about Babylon being everywhere.
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