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Sorin:
Is it a sin to drink it?

Karen:
Any thing that can become a habit of the flesh is a sin. And we are to overcome the lusts of our flesh.  Isnt it part of the flesh to want to drink? Thats what I see. Hows others see it? ~Karen~

shibboleth:
Having been a drunk over 29 years ago, I don't really have much affection for alcohol. I never could understand how people could drink a sip of a beer and put it down and maybe drink another sip ten minutes later. I never drank for any other purpose than to get drunk. So my thinking about alcohol may be a somewhat biased against drinking.

I just think it is something that may cause a brother to stumble, and with so many alcoholics in our country, it probalby is a good idea to stay away from it. I don't really care if people drink, but I think it's kind of hypocritical to harshly judge drug takers, when the biggest baddest drug of all is still alcohol.

In the Bible there are many scriptures against drunkeness and I include any drug that changes your brain and thinking ability in drunkeness.

SteveB:

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Joh 2:3 And, at their being in want of wine, the mother of Jesus is saying to Him, "They have no wine."
Joh 2:5 His mother is saying to the servants, "Anything which He should be saying to you, do."
Joh 2:6 Now there were six stone water pots lying there, in accord with the cleansing of the Jews, containing two or three firkins apiece."

FROM ROBERTSONS WORD PICTURES-
"Two or three firkins apiece (ana metrētas duo ē treis). The word metrētēs, from metreō, to measure, simply means “measurer,â€? an amphora for measuring liquids (in Demosthenes, Aristotle, Polybius), the Hebrew bath (2Ch_4:5), here only in N.T., about 8-1/2 English gallons. Each hudria thus held about 20 gallons. This common distributive use of ana occurs here only in this Gospel, but is in Rev_4:8. In Joh_4:28 a much smaller hudria was used for carrying water."


Joh 2:7 And Jesus is saying to them, "Brim fill the water pots with water.And up to the brim they fill them."
Joh 2:8 And He is saying to them, "Draw now and bring to the chief of the dining room.Now they bring it."
Joh 2:9 Now as the chief of the dining room tastes the water become wine, and was not aware whence it is - yet the servants who have drawn the water were aware - the chief of the dining room is summoning the bridegroom"
Joh 2:10 and is saying to him, "Every man is placing the ideal wine first, and whenever they should be made drunk, then the inferior. Yet you have kept the ideal wine hitherto."

Of course Christ was never drunk and was not encouraging them to get drunk. These are symbols but this was a literal miracle at a literal marriage. Remember this was the 'second round' of wine. The new best wine saved for last:) This a the FIRST miracle of Jesus and a great parable.

I myself do drink. I love beer and wine. BUT I NEVER BECOME DRUNK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I know my limits and its OVERCOMING my flesh everytime I drink and dont fall for the temptation to become drunk. And Paul also told Timothy to drink wine for his oft infermaties.

Those who cant control themselves with respect to alcohol should not drink and I dont drink around those who would be weak by me doing so.

Peace...Steve

Sorin:

--- Quote from: SteveB ---I myself to drink. I love beer and wine. BUT I NEVER BECOME DRUNK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I know my limits and its OVERCOMING my flesh everytime I drink and dont fall for the temptation to become drunk. And Paul also told Timothy to drink wine for his oft infermaties.
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Hi Steve,

I drink too, I also smoke but that's for another topic discussion elsewhere.
thanks for your intelligent post on this matter. and I do agree with you.
Sure, I can believe that Christ was never drunk, but I don't believe he never drank.

Take care,
Sorin

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