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UncleBeau

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Contradictions From KJV to NKJV
« on: July 05, 2007, 05:29:53 PM »

I have many text files that I make up while I study the Word. One of them shows what looks like some contradictions from the King James Version to the New King James Version. Take a look at these verses and tell me if you notice a different message as the revisions were made.


quotes mine


|1 Corinthians 2:7 (King James Version)
|King James Version (KJV)
|Public Domain
|
| 7)But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden
|   wisdom, which God ordained before the "world" unto our glory:
|
|
|1 Corinthians 2:7 (New King James Version)
|New King James Version (NKJV)
|Copyright © 1982 by Thomas Nelson, Inc.
|
|
| 7) But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, the hidden wisdom
|    which God ordained before the "ages" for our glory,
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|Job 34:33 (King James Version)
|King James Version (KJV)
|Public Domain
|
|   
|33)Should it be according to thy mind? he will recompense it, "whether
|   thou refuse, or whether thou choose"; and not I: therefore speak what
|   thou knowest.


note: this is also a great verse to support the fact that we have no free will that determines whether or not our sins are "recompensed" or redeemed.
|
|
| Job 34:33 (New King James Version)
|New King James Version (NKJV)
|Copyright © 1982 by Thomas Nelson, Inc.
|

|33) Should He repay it according to your terms,
|      Just because you disavow it?
|      "You must choose", and not I;
|      Therefore speak what you know.

note: but look at how it was revised to say that we must choose.  Does this carry over the same meaning?

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I could be mistaken in this because I haven't put much study into the original text, but I thought it would make a good topic for discussion.
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YellowStone

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Re: Contradictions From KJV to NKJV
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2007, 11:20:47 PM »


Hi UncleBeau, I to have not done due dilligance and researched my Hebrew/Greek Bible, however I did use my NIV Bible to compare its interpretation. I really believe that the translations have more to do with semantics possile due to the language of the time than any thought of contraction. I have left your text in tact and will comment again at the end


I have many text files that I make up while I study the Word. One of them shows what looks like some contradictions from the King James Version to the New King James Version. Take a look at these verses and tell me if you notice a different message as the revisions were made.


quotes mine


|1 Corinthians 2:7 (King James Version)
|King James Version (KJV)
|Public Domain
|
| 7)But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden
|   wisdom, which God ordained before the "world" unto our glory:
|
|
|1 Corinthians 2:7 (New King James Version)
|New King James Version (NKJV)
|Copyright © 1982 by Thomas Nelson, Inc.
|
|
| 7) But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, the hidden wisdom
|    which God ordained before the "ages" for our glory,


New International Version (NIV)
|1 Corinthians 2:7   No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began.
 
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|Job 34:33 (King James Version)
|King James Version (KJV)
|Public Domain
|
|   
|33)Should it be according to thy mind? he will recompense it, "whether
|   thou refuse, or whether thou choose"; and not I: therefore speak what
|   thou knowest.


note: this is also a great verse to support the fact that we have no free will that determines whether or not our sins are "recompensed" or redeemed.
|
|
| Job 34:33 (New King James Version)
|New King James Version (NKJV)
|Copyright © 1982 by Thomas Nelson, Inc.
|

|33) Should He repay it according to your terms,
|      Just because you disavow it?
|      "You must choose", and not I;
|      Therefore speak what you know.

note: but look at how it was revised to say that we must choose.  Does this carry over the same meaning?

New International Version (NIV)
Job 34:33   Should God then reward you on your terms,
                when you refuse to repent?
                You must decide, not I;
                so tell me what you know.

 

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I could be mistaken in this because I haven't put much study into the original text, but I thought it would make a good topic for discussion.


The differences in |1 Corinthians 2:7 are in my mind minimal. Many understand the beginning of time with the creation of the world; being this as it may, we can assume that the time period in question is for a very long time.

As for the New King James Version of Job 34:33, I feel that the same message is being taught but once again, the language used is according its time. Actually I believe in this case that the NIV does a better job than both.

Remember that God does give us the power of choice, yet this does not mean that we have the power to choose outside of what God has planned. I chose a very long time learn of God and of course I wanted "proof" that what I was given to understnad was infact truth. It took many years before God led me to Bible Truths, so that "I" could see that I wasn't the only one believing what I was.

I hope this helps,

Love in Christ,
Darren
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UncleBeau

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Re: Contradictions From KJV to NKJV
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2007, 12:11:15 PM »

Job 34:33 was one that I wanted you to really look at. "He will recompense it" (talking about your iniquity) "whether thou refuse or whether thou choose"(talking about whether or not you have a choice that God will redeem iniquity?) Did Jesus not come to pay for (redeem/recompense) ALL sin?

The NKJV just simply says, "you must choose".

I'm not trying to make a big deal out of it, but it can be misleading and the NIV says the same as the NKJV.
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