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Sacred Secrets
iris:
I don't think I can add anything more. :)
This is a really great thread!
Thanks everyone for sharing.
Iris
Chris R:
Hi Joe,
As usuall i'm struggling, maybe you can help me.
"The mystery" [this is not literal--it was a mystery until God tells us that one thing really means or represents another and DIFFERENT THING] [Ray smith]
Mystery musterion Babylon the Great, mother of harlots, and the abominations of the earth." [Rev 17-5]
How do we reconcile "SACRED SECRET Babylon the great"
What is Sacred?..."to make holy", devoted or dedicated to a deity
Sometimes i can be a little dence, Looks like todays no different.
What of the riches and knowledge of God... can they be revealed?
Are some, and not others?
O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable [are] his judgments, and his ways past finding out! [Rom 11:33]
Unto me,[Paul] who am less than the least of all saints, is this grace given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ; [Eph 3:8]
Looks like its still a musterion to me...
thanks for the thread.
Chris R
hillsbororiver:
Hi Chris,
Even though prophecies of Jesus were all through the OT His divinity was a sacred secret to Israel when He appeared on the scene, it was only when the Father opened the eyes of the apostles that they clearly saw who He really was. It was no mystery but the 'secret' had to be revealed (by God) before it was seen.
Mat 16:17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-jona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
Luk 10:21 In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight.
There are Doctors of Divinity, Theology Phd.s, and religious scholars that have no clue as to what the 'sacred secret of (Mystery) Babylon is, yet we have under educated simple folks like me who can see it clearly as the seat of Satan and where this seat resides. God has been gracious enough to let me in on this secret, it has nothing to do with unraveling a 'mystery' from my own intellegence.
I hope this helps some,
His Peace to you,
Joe
hillsbororiver:
--- Quote from: hillsbororiver on July 06, 2007, 10:53:35 AM ---
What a humbling yet incredibly exciting thing to contemplate, something we should really think about when we are troubled by family and friends not being able to grasp the things we clearly see now. We just cannot change anyone's mind in regard to these sacred secrets!
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Actually the purpose of this topic was for those (especially newer members) who become frustrated when people just don't get the things they attempt to show them about the real Good News. We should see and understand that we are not capable of letting anyone in on God's 'secrets' until God Himself reveals them. The folks being spoken to don't really see any 'mystery' about the doctrines they believe, they only think that anyone that does not agree with them is deceived.
His Peace to you,
Joe
hillsbororiver:
--- Quote from: Chris R on July 07, 2007, 06:53:31 AM ---Hi Joe,
Hello again Chris,
As usuall i'm struggling, maybe you can help me.
"The mystery" [this is not literal--it was a mystery until God tells us that one thing really means or represents another and DIFFERENT THING] [Ray smith]
Doesn't it fit to say this was God's secret until He reveals it?
Mystery musterion Babylon the Great, mother of harlots, and the abominations of the earth." [Rev 17-5]
How do we reconcile "SACRED SECRET Babylon the great"
What is Sacred?..."to make holy", devoted or dedicated to a deity
Rev 17:5 and upon her forehead a name written, a secret: Babylon the great, the Mother of the Harlots and of the Abominations of the earth. (Rotherham's)
Sometimes i can be a little dence, Looks like todays no different.
What of the riches and knowledge of God... can they be revealed?
Are some, and not others?
O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable [are] his judgments, and his ways past finding out! [Rom 11:33]
Substitute 'untraceable' for 'unsearchable', unsearchable seems to imply imply that it is forbidden to search for this knowledge, untraceable says that we are presently incapable of tracking it down, it must be revealed!
[S: (adj) untraceable (incapable of being traced or tracked down) "an untraceable source"]
Rotherham's uses untraceable but even in Strong's we have;
G421
ἀνεξιχνίαστος
anexichniastos
an-ex-ikh-nee'-as-tos
From G1 (as a negative particle) and a presumed derivative of a compound of G1537 and a derivative of G2487; not tracked out, that is, (by implication) untraceable: - past finding out, unsearchable.
Unto me,[Paul] who am less than the least of all saints, is this grace given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ; [Eph 3:8]
Untracable is actually the primary Gr. definition,
Looks like its still a musterion to me...
thanks for the thread.
Chris R
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