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YellowStone:
Thank you Joe for continuing this thread and driving home your point.
I hope that I am sharing the point you are making by what I too am discovering.
You said, and I quote:
This knowledge of Him is not some mystery to be unraveled by science or mathmatical formulas or religious Doctorates, or computer programs, this knowledge comes from the Creator of the Universe whispering into your spiritual ear. This to me makes it even more personal and more humbling.
YES!!!!!! Science can learn enough to know there must be a God, an intelligent designer, just as I have no excuse from knowing the same by what can be seen by what God has made. There is no excuse! (Rom 1:20)
But, and this is a biggie! I cannot come to a personal relationship with God, no matter how hard I study, read, pray and or meditate. For learning of him and about him is impossible until He Himself reveals Himself through His Spirit into my "spiritual ear"
As you said, this makes the relationship so much more personal and levels the playing field, because it is no longer one trying to understand God, but rather one being driven by his Spiritual direction and becoming as meek and mild as little children.
Mat 18:3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.
Very profound Joe and I do hope we are on the same page with this.
Your brother in Christ,
Darren
hillsbororiver:
--- Quote from: YellowStone on July 08, 2007, 10:21:15 AM ---
I do hope we are on the same page with this.
--- End quote ---
Not only the same page but we are dotting the same i's and crossing the same t's! ;)
Thanks Darren for the added scripture and your observations.
His Peace to you Brother,
Joe
Deborah-Leigh:
To add Darren
You say : But, and this is a biggie! I cannot come to a personal relationship with God, no matter how hard I study, read, pray and or meditate. For learning of him and about him is impossible until He Himself reveals Himself through His Spirit into my "spiritual ear"
Yes....blast of a Trumpet!! ;D and look how Babylon claims to have a personal relationship and they offer as evidence for relationship their prayer time, study time and PH D's silk ties, tithes, Limozines and Church buildings.! ..Relationship, relationship they claim and flaunt!
What you say Darren is a biggie and hits the mark! SHOT!
We have nothing of our own accord but that which it pleases the Father to give us! lHis gifts His works and the consequence of HIS Grace on our wicked hearts making us walk in His Ways and giving to us good works to experience through His Spirit! Whew....when will we ever hear that teaching anywhere?
Beautiful thread Joe! :D
Peace be to you
Arcturus :)
jER:
Touch'e - the sword of the Word.
For who can argue without concession to these points of truth!
Thanks Joe, and all for the blessing.
- jER
DuluthGA:
Thank you very much for this very special insight, Joe!!!
To show that there is another source defining musterion in this light is Crosswalk's online Strongs which first says "hidden thing, secret, mystery" then says "religious secrets confided only to the initiated and not to ordinary mortals."
It captures the idea.
I agree a lot is missed if just 'mystery or secret' is used; it sort of gives the idea that the matter will always be cloudy or we just won't know until we know. But ah ha! WE DO KNOW NOW, DON'T WE!!! ;)
Thanks a million!! Janice
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