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What is God's thinking process like?
Lacey23:
Can you guys help me find scriptures, in relation, to God's thinking process??? I want to apply it to myself. The reason why I'm asking you guys is because I'm tired of feeling angry, hurt, and disgusted after people, (so-called friends and people) discard me when they no longer need me for something, until the next time they need me.... I've heard and seen many things of God blessing those who reject him on earth with lavish life, children, etc and they don't really care about God. I've enjoyed helping people, but am tired of how people make me feel afterwards, they disappear on me, or when my favours come up, they don't do it for me. I go out of my way for them many times, and when i need help, they don't' go out of their way for me. It hurts my feelings and I'm tired of feeling this way and feeling disgusted and has no idea how God does it.... How does He think of them that treat him like that? How can he continue to love them, after they do it, I forgive them thousands of times, but they do it every time and i just end up feeling the same... its like an endless cycle...I don't know how God does it... I want to learn how God thinks and sees and how he deals with it every time people treat him like that.. Please HELP!!!!!!!!
musicman:
My friends don't do this to me. However, I have been deceived many times by those whome I thought were friends and were not (wolves in sheeps clothing?). I say cut them off. Forgive them, but cut them off as long as they continue to take unfair advantage of you. God will make things right with those who reject him. Their lavash lifestyles are blinding them to the truths of God. Your "friends" are learning unrightous behavior by having their needs met, only to turn around and ignore the needs of you. Time to get new friends unless they change their ways.
hillsbororiver:
Hi Lacey,
Psalms speaks of your trials;
Psa 35:12 They rewarded me evil for good to the spoiling of my soul.
This is a difficult thing to experience but the Lord does address it here in Luke as well as many other places;
Luke Chapter 6
26Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets.
27But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you,
28Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you.
29And unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other; and him that taketh away thy cloak forbid not to take thy coat also.
30Give to every man that asketh of thee; and of him that taketh away thy goods ask them not again.
31And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.
32For if ye love them which love you, what thank have ye? for sinners also love those that love them.
33And if ye do good to them which do good to you, what thank have ye? for sinners also do even the same.
34And if ye lend to them of whom ye hope to receive, what thank have ye? for sinners also lend to sinners, to receive as much again.
35But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil.
36Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful.
Here is a little from Paul too;
Rom 12:19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
2Co 6:4 But in all things approving ourselves as the ministers of God, in much patience, in afflictions, in necessities, in distresses,
2Co 6:5 In stripes, in imprisonments, in tumults, in labors, in watchings, in fastings;
2Co 6:6 By pureness, by knowledge, by longsuffering, by kindness, by the Holy Ghost, by love unfeigned,
His Peace to you Lacey,
Joe
Joey Porter:
--- Quote from: Lacey23 on July 07, 2007, 10:09:23 AM ---Can you guys help me find scriptures, in relation, to God's thinking process??? I want to apply it to myself. The reason why I'm asking you guys is because I'm tired of feeling angry, hurt, and disgusted after people, (so-called friends and people) discard me when they no longer need me for something, until the next time they need me.... I've heard and seen many things of God blessing those who reject him on earth with lavish life, children, etc and they don't really care about God. I've enjoyed helping people, but am tired of how people make me feel afterwards, they disappear on me, or when my favours come up, they don't do it for me. I go out of my way for them many times, and when i need help, they don't' go out of their way for me. It hurts my feelings and I'm tired of feeling this way and feeling disgusted and has no idea how God does it.... How does He think of them that treat him like that? How can he continue to love them, after they do it, I forgive them thousands of times, but they do it every time and i just end up feeling the same... its like an endless cycle...I don't know how God does it... I want to learn how God thinks and sees and how he deals with it every time people treat him like that.. Please HELP!!!!!!!!
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Interestingly, just minutes ago I was reading a portion of scripture that deals with this.
In Numbers 14, God had just told Moses that he was going to strike down the Israelites and destroy them with a plague because they had been grumbling against Him.
11 The LORD said to Moses, "How long will these people treat me with contempt? How long will they refuse to believe in me, in spite of all the miraculous signs I have performed among them? 12 I will strike them down with a plague and destroy them, but I will make you into a nation greater and stronger than they."
Then Moses interceded on their behalf, even though, just one verse earlier, we read that they wanted to stone him!
10 But the whole assembly talked about stoning them.
So here we see a case of Moses loving his enemies, defending their case to the Lord, in spite of the fact that their intention was to stone him - simply for speaking God's truth. Not only that, but God has just told him that he will be made into a greater nation than the rest of them. This is a clear parallel to the story of Joseph and his brothers, in which Joseph received dreams showing him that he would be in a position of authority over his brothers.
However, just like Joseph, Moses also was forgiving toward those who had wronged him.
Now it is interesting to note that it seems that the primary reason that Moses wanted the Lord to relent of his wrath was not so much for the cause of the Israelites, but for the reason of the Lord's name being upheld to the rest of the world.
Numbers 14
13 Moses said to the LORD, "Then the Egyptians will hear about it! By your power you brought these people up from among them. 14 And they will tell the inhabitants of this land about it. They have already heard that you, O LORD, are with these people and that you, O LORD, have been seen face to face, that your cloud stays over them, and that you go before them in a pillar of cloud by day and a pillar of fire by night. 15 If you put these people to death all at one time, the nations who have heard this report about you will say, 16 'The LORD was not able to bring these people into the land he promised them on oath; so he slaughtered them in the desert.'
17 "Now may the Lord's strength be displayed, just as you have declared: 18 'The LORD is slow to anger, abounding in love and forgiving sin and rebellion. Yet he does not leave the guilty unpunished; he punishes the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation.' 19 In accordance with your great love, forgive the sin of these people, just as you have pardoned them from the time they left Egypt until now."
This is quite amazing! Here Moses typifies Christ, interceding not only on behalf of the Israelites, but also for the purpose of upholding the glory of God. This is precisely what Christ does!
So, getting back to your original question - "I want to learn how God thinks and sees and how he deals with it every time people treat him like that"
Well, if we read a little further in Numbers 14, we gain some insight into this:
20 The LORD replied, "I have forgiven them, as you asked. 21 Nevertheless, as surely as I live and as surely as the glory of the LORD fills the whole earth, 22 not one of the men who saw my glory and the miraculous signs I performed in Egypt and in the desert but who disobeyed me and tested me ten times- 23 not one of them will ever see the land I promised on oath to their forefathers. No one who has treated me with contempt will ever see it.
Here we can see that God does forgive people, while still holding them accountable, and disciplining them, for their sins. This is the same type of wording used in the parable of the wedding banquet:
Luke 14
24I tell you, not one of those men who were invited will get a taste of my banquet.'
I believe this shows us a bit of the mind of God on this matter.
We are to love our enemies by interceding on their behalf, asking God to forgive them for their actions. This is yet another example of how we are to walk as Christ walked.
However, just because they are forgiven, does not mean that they will not suffer for their actions.
Galatians 6
7Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows. 8The one who sows to please his sinful nature, from that nature[a]will reap destruction; the one who sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal (eonian) life.
Chris R:
--- Quote from: Lacey23 on July 07, 2007, 10:09:23 AM ---Can you guys help me find scriptures, in relation, to God's thinking process??? I want to apply it to myself. The reason why I'm asking you guys is because I'm tired of feeling angry, hurt, and disgusted after people, (so-called friends and people) discard me when they no longer need me for something, until the next time they need me.... I've heard and seen many things of God blessing those who reject him on earth with lavish life, children, etc and they don't really care about God. I've enjoyed helping people, but am tired of how people make me feel afterwards, they disappear on me, or when my favours come up, they don't do it for me. I go out of my way for them many times, and when i need help, they don't' go out of their way for me. It hurts my feelings and I'm tired of feeling this way and feeling disgusted and has no idea how God does it.... How does He think of them that treat him like that? How can he continue to love them, after they do it, I forgive them thousands of times, but they do it every time and i just end up feeling the same... its like an endless cycle...I don't know how God does it... I want to learn how God thinks and sees and how he deals with it every time people treat him like that.. Please HELP!!!!!!!!
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Hi Lacey
For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts. [Isa 55:8-9]
Gods thinking process, is beyond our own, We think like humans, because we are humans. Of course the typical reply will be about how we know the mind of the Lord, And how we in and of ourselves have it all figured out, And therefore set ourselves up to be gods. But I assure you..we havent a clue! "work out your own salvation with fear and trembling". [Phl 2-12]
Learn a lesson from possibly one of the greatest apostles to live, Paul said:
And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible.
1Cr 9:26 I therefore so run, not as uncertainly [aimlessly]; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air:
1Cr 9:27 But I keep under my body, and bring [it] into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway [/b] Paul had no clue What circumstances God would use to fullfill His purpose, and Neither do we. "This however is just temporary"
Peace
Chris R
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