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ciy:
I am there with you Ursula.  Let's remember to be strong and courageous in knowing that God is in control.  Even though He is chastening us, He is bringing us through the fire of the wilderness.

"Fear not (there is nothing to fear), for I am with you; do not look around you in terror and be dismayed, for I am your God.  I will strengthen and harden you to difficulties, yes, I will help you; yes, I will hold you up and retain you with My (victorious) right hand of rightness and justice."  Isaiah 41:10 Amplified version

God has us in the palm of His right hand.  No fear.  Be of good cheer.

CIY

Robin:
I've been in the wilderness for close to 10 years. I did not hear anything from God during that time. It was right after I was called out of the church. I did not step foot in a church for close to 14 years. I recently had to attend 2 church services for personal reasons. I was standing there in the middle of everyone when they were singing and went through something very interesting. I felt as if there was nothing inside of me. It startled me at first. It was like I was in a bubble and they were all outside and I was alone on the inside. For a few minutes I told myself that there was nothing in me and I was alone and empty. Then I realized that there wasn't any of the false teaching and false worship in me. It was all outside of me and I was a spectator. All of it used to be inside of me. God separated me from all of it through the wilderness. I didn't realize how much had changed until I went to those services.

Our carnal minds latch on to all things of the world and the physical. The wilderness separates us from all those things. When separated the carnal dies and it hurts and is overwhelming. 

Matthew 13
 44"The kingdom of heaven is like treasure hidden in a field. When a man found it, he hid it again, and then in his joy went and sold all he had and bought that field.
 45"Again, the kingdom of heaven is like a merchant looking for fine pearls. 46When he found one of great value, he went away and sold everything he had and bought it.

Philippians 3:7-9
 7But whatever was to my profit I now consider loss for the sake of Christ. 8What is more, I consider everything a loss compared to the surpassing greatness of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord, for whose sake I have lost all things. I consider them rubbish, that I may gain Christ 9and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ—the righteousness that comes from God and is by faith.

Isaiah 35
Joy of the Redeemed
 1 The desert and the parched land will be glad;
       the wilderness will rejoice and blossom.
       Like the crocus, 2 it will burst into bloom;
       it will rejoice greatly and shout for joy.
       The glory of Lebanon will be given to it,
       the splendor of Carmel and Sharon;
       they will see the glory of the LORD,
       the splendor of our God.
 3 Strengthen the feeble hands,
       steady the knees that give way;

 4 say to those with fearful hearts,
       "Be strong, do not fear;
       your God will come,
       he will come with vengeance;
       with divine retribution
       he will come to save you."

 5 Then will the eyes of the blind be opened
       and the ears of the deaf unstopped.

 6 Then will the lame leap like a deer,
       and the mute tongue shout for joy.
       Water will gush forth in the wilderness
       and streams in the desert.

 7 The burning sand will become a pool,
       the thirsty ground bubbling springs.
       In the haunts where jackals once lay,
       grass and reeds and papyrus will grow.

 8 And a highway will be there;
       it will be called the Way of Holiness.
       The unclean will not journey on it;
       it will be for those who walk in that Way;
       wicked fools will not go about on it. [a]

 9 No lion will be there,
       nor will any ferocious beast get up on it;
       they will not be found there.
       But only the redeemed will walk there,

 10 and the ransomed of the LORD will return.
       They will enter Zion with singing;
       everlasting joy will crown their heads.
       Gladness and joy will overtake them,
       and sorrow and sighing will flee away.

gmik:
MG  What an awesome revelation for yu.  Thanks for sharing.  Great scriptures too.

carol70:

--- Quote from: ciy on July 10, 2007, 01:42:41 PM ---I find great comfort in the knowledge that what I am going through now outside of the church (Egypt, Bablyon, etc) is the wilderness.  Just as Abraham, Jacob, Moses, etc had to leave the comforts of the world system that they knew and go out away into an unknown area alone to have the wilderness experience (So that God can speak to you directly through the stars or where you wrestle with God until you know Him).  Once you are in the wilderness you will be tried and tempted to return to Egypt or the world just as the Israelites were in Exodus, but that is the time when you learn of God to rely and believe on Him for your well being and not a church and its members.
--- End quote ---

I've indeed been wrestling with God but wasn't sure if this was part of the wilderness experience or not.  But Deut 8 cleared it up for me.  I just really hope it doesn't last 40 years... ;D

Deu 8:1  All the commandments which I command you this day shall you be careful to do, that you may live and multiply and go in and possess the land which Jehovah swore to your fathers.

Deu 8:2  And you shall remember all the way which Jehovah your God led you these forty years in the wilderness in order to humble you, to prove you, to know what is in your heart, whether you would keep His commandments or not.

Deu 8:3  And He humbled you and allowed you to hunger, and then He fed you with manna, which you did not know, neither did your fathers know it, so that He might make you know that man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that comes out of the mouth of Jehovah man shall live.

Deu 8:4  Your clothing did not wear out on you, nor did your foot swell, these forty years.

Deu 8:5  And you have known with your heart, that, as a man chastens his son, so Jehovah your God chastens you.

Deu 8:6  And you shall keep the commandments of Jehovah your God, to walk in His ways and to fear Him.

Deu 8:7  For Jehovah your God brings you into a good land, a land of brooks of water, of fountains and depths that spring out of valleys and hills,

Deu 8:8  a land of wheat and barley and vines and fig trees and pomegranates, a land of olive oil and honey,

Deu 8:9  a land in which you shall eat bread without want. You shall not lack any thing in it. It is a land whose stones are iron, and out of whose hills you may dig copper.

Deu 8:10  And you shall eat and be satisfied, then you shall bless Jehovah your God for the good land which He has given you.

Deu 8:11  Beware that you do not forget Jehovah your God, in not keeping His commandments, and His judgments, and His statutes, which I command you today,

Deu 8:12  lest when you have eaten and are full and have built good houses and lived in them,

Deu 8:13  and when your herds and your flocks multiply, and your silver and your gold is multiplied, and all that you have is multiplied,

Deu 8:14  then your heart might be lifted up, and you might forget Jehovah your God who brought you forth out of the land of Egypt, from the house of slaves.

Deu 8:15  He led you through the great and terrible wilderness, with fiery serpents and scorpions and thirsty ground, where there was no water, who brought you forth water out of the rock of flint,

Deu 8:16  who fed you in the wilderness with manna which your fathers did not know, so that He might humble you and so that He might prove you, to do you good in your latter end,

Deu 8:17  and so that you might not say in your heart, My power and the might of my hand has gotten me this wealth.

Deu 8:18  But you shall remember Jehovah your God, for it is He who gives you power to get wealth, so that He may confirm His covenant which He has sworn to your fathers, as it is today.

Deu 8:19  And it shall be if you do at all forget Jehovah your God and walk after other gods and serve them and worship them, I testify against you today that you shall surely perish.

Deu 8:20  As the nations whom Jehovah destroys before your face, so you shall perish because you would not listen to the voice of Jehovah your God.

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