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I have a question for you all
GODSown1:
hmm... hmm...
What does," GODS in CONTROL!" actually mean??. Well az wot Ive cum 2 believe & believe wholeheartedly!!! GOD is in CONTROL! alwayz!, alwayZ! haz & alwayz Will b, GOD has a plan 4 each & everyone of us on dis Earth in which HE is da Creator!, Yes!??. Hitler!, Osama!, Suddam, Homosexuals, gang members,nurses, doctors, Florists, Policemen, Pastors, nannies etc.. etc.. AlL GODS Plans aint they??, I dont no sumtimes on wot I read in here I get Amazed! @ how pple change in their thorts 2wards GOD & HIS Soverienty!, but it all cumz back 2 GODS plan 2 each, so I jus got 2 xsept dis is how GOD has dem 2 think coz its HIS plan 4 dem, it is all mind boggling!I must admit BUT!! I jus Pray GODs plan 4 me is 2 keep strong!! in HIS name as I know!! HE is the Creator! HE is the Judge! HE is the Deliverer! HE is the Redeemer! HE is the Way! HE is the Truth! He is the Light! HE is the Life! HE is our Stength! HE is our Rock! HE is GOD most High! etc.. etc... GODBLESS! uZ! AlL!, I felt I had 2 post dis lol! :D :D :)
Ward:
Sorin:
--- Quote ---...Is adultery considered an "abomination"? No, it is simply considered sin, but "abomination" is pretty strong language. Adultery, does not "change the natural use", homosexuality does.
I'm sorry but anybody who considers homosexuality to be in the same category of sin as adultery (between a male and female) is simply kidding themselves. Homosexuality is far worse. And Scripture will attest.
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Musicman:
--- Quote ---... Same goes for lust as opposed to adultery, which I do believe is less of a sin than gay sex.
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I'm not certain that your statements are correct. At least not based on the word "abomination."
Some Scriptures to consider.:
Will ye steal, murder, and commit adultery, and swear falsely, and burn incense unto Baal, and walk after other gods whom ye know not;
And come and stand before me in this house, which is called by my name, and say, We are delivered to do all these abominations?(Jeremiah 7:9-10 KJV+)
And one hath committed abomination with his neighbor's wife; and another hath lewdly defiled his daughter-in-law; and another in thee hath humbled his sister, his father's daughter.
(Ezekiel 22:11 KJV+)
The LORD said moreover unto me; Son of man, wilt thou judge Aholah and Aholibah? yea, declare unto them their abominations;
That they have committed adultery, and blood is in their hands, and with their idols have they committed adultery, and have also caused their sons, whom they bore unto me, to pass for them through the fire, to devour them.(Ezekiel 23:36-37 KJV+)
There are more than one or two "things," that are defined as abominations:
These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
A heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren. (Proverbs 6:16-19 KJV+)
Thou shalt not bring the hire of a whore, or the price of a dog, into the house of the LORD thy God for any vow: for even both these are abomination unto the LORD thy God. (Deuteronomy 23:18 KJVR)
Her former husband, which sent her away, may not take her again to be his wife, after that she is defiled; for that is abomination before the LORD: and thou shalt not cause the land to sin, which the LORD thy God giveth thee for an inheritance. (Deuteronomy 24:4 KJV+)
A false balance is abomination to the LORD: but a just weight is his delight. (Proverbs 11:1 KJV+)
They that are of a froward heart are abomination to the LORD: but such as are upright in their way are his delight. (Proverbs 11:20 KJV+)
Lying lips are abomination to the LORD: but they that deal truly are his delight. (Proverbs 12:22 KJV+)
One more thing... Not to be picky here, but both of you provided some information in your posts regarding "...the many diseases that are due to homosexual activity?" Correct me if I am wrong, it seems that all of the information was regarding male/male activity. What about female/female? If you have such information it would be good to provide it, too.
All:
I am not trying to "justify" the sin of homosexual activity. As I said in my previous post, I accept that it is a sin, but I only came to know that it existed via the scriptures. I'm certain that I had to look up the definition at that time. (I'm pretty sure I was in 3rd grade.) I've already stated what my thoughts are on the reason why God calls it an abomination. I just feel that there is a whole lot more to it than its gross or un-natural. That's enough if that's all there is to it, but... This is God we're talking about. His ways are higher than our ways and his thoughts are higher than our thoughts.
Based on the Scriptures that I listed (and there are more), there a more than a few sins that are listed as abominations. I have committed at least a few with MY proud look, MY lying tongue, MY heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, MY feet that be swift in running to mischief, MY stealing, and MY committing adultery.
For me... I try to keep my attention on My sins, whether they are listed as abominations or not. They are the weaknesses that I was given by God. As you can see there are more than enough. I think that I will expect the same from everyone else and their weaknesses. We are examples to one another.
Maybe some of you have a better way... But when the gay men and women I have met ask me about this subject (And Yes, they do *ask* me first...) I share the thoughts I have shared with all of you. (Yes, its a sin!) What I really find interesting... As a group, they have really looked into the Scriptures for God's words on this subject. Sure, some try to twist the Scriptures etc. But... (And I think this is a really really Big Deal!) When I start to share with them what I have been given to understand about the myth of "Free Will." They have listened so much closer than anyone else. They seem to be trying very hard to find out why they are different. Like I said, they've been studying the Scriptures on homosexual sin much harder than most of us have. When God opens their eyes to see that they are broken and so is everybody else. And that God is *really* God and, "...is the Saviour of all men, especially of those that believe." It really seems to make an impression. I pray that it does...
Just some info and thoughts I wanted to share,
\/\/ard
ez2u:
sorin the homosexual's mind is all twisted up you don't think striaght and when you practice such things you get worst. The idea is to put on the mind of Christ. Right now there is this big movement in our atomphere to accept homosexuality its confusing people, teenagers, children. My daughter one year came home and said black people can't help being black and people should accept them just like homosexual can't help being what they are so we need to accept what they are doing. It came from one of her honors classes at school. public. I prayed first then got the Bible out did alittle more study and read scriptures to her, no preaching I felt the word was powerful in its self. One thing I did notice is that its the act of homosexuality. the act. that God hates. Its wrong, and being a mother of 6 children it was my job to say so it is wrong but don't throw rocks at these people that's wrong too. don;t hate them. Hate the sin not the person. It just seems its a balancing act at times being fully convince His way is right, sure footed not that i wouldn't fall but when i do fall i will repent and my Lord is faithful and just to deliver me from my sins. and raise me up in Christ jesus not of myself but Him. I am sure His way is right. peggy
Sorin:
--- Quote from: GODSown1 on July 22, 2007, 07:46:13 PM ---hmm... hmm...
What does," GODS in CONTROL!" actually mean??. Well az wot Ive cum 2 believe & believe wholeheartedly!!! GOD is in CONTROL! alwayz!, alwayZ! haz & alwayz Will b, GOD has a plan 4 each & everyone of us on dis Earth in which HE is da Creator!, Yes!??. Hitler!, Osama!, Suddam, Homosexuals, gang members,nurses, doctors, Florists, Policemen, Pastors, nannies etc.. etc.. AlL GODS Plans aint they??, I dont no sumtimes on wot I read in here I get Amazed! @ how pple change in their thorts 2wards GOD & HIS Soverienty!, but it all cumz back 2 GODS plan 2 each, so I jus got 2 xsept dis is how GOD has dem 2 think coz its HIS plan 4 dem, it is all mind boggling!I must admit BUT!! I jus Pray GODs plan 4 me is 2 keep strong!! in HIS name as I know!! HE is the Creator! HE is the Judge! HE is the Deliverer! HE is the Redeemer! HE is the Way! HE is the Truth! He is the Light! HE is the Life! HE is our Stength! HE is our Rock! HE is GOD most High! etc.. etc... GODBLESS! uZ! AlL!, I felt I had 2 post dis lol! :D :D :)
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Godsown,
I mean no offense, but must you type like that? It is quit painful to read. In fact, it is why I don't bother to read your posts. Seriously, that is not even a language. And I believe I also speak on behalf of many others here who feel the same way but are too afraid to say anything because they don't want to offend.
Well, I'm one of those people that will speak his mind, no matter if it offends others or not. Though my intent isn't to offend, but rather
to try and get you to type properly so that I/we may be able to actually read your posts.
I hope you take this, not as an offense, but as advice,
Sorin
GODSown1:
simple answer YES!! I do,
U mite hav 2 learn 2 read ma Posts coz u mite learn sumfing coz U seem 2 hav alot of Doubt!, aw! well U r GODS work in progress!, Im not offended on hw U fink I write I do get offended on ur doubts U do hav, but! d@s HIS plan HE has 4 U n e way. Trust in GOD & know!!!! HE is in Control, ur time will cum 1 day brother/sister wen ur Eyes r Open, GODBlesS U!.
muchLOVE!! Pera
Ps. n e way dude if U dont read wot I write, wot U complaining 4?? Plus speak 4 urself not 4 others, PeaceOwt!!
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