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Craig:
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Craig


WAS ADAM'S SIN PASSED ON TO HIS PROGENY?

Someone has suggested to the forum that Romans 5:19 contradicts a statement I made regarding the fact that Adam's sins were not passed on to his progeny, but rather his mortality (death) was passed on. Here is my statement:  "You might suggest that Adam's sin was PASSED ON to all men. No it wasn't. DEATH was passed on."

Now then, does Rom. 5:19 contradict my statement? --  "For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous."

Why does Paul change words in midstream if they are both identical to his meaning?  Why didn't Paul say, "For as by one man's SIN many were made SINNERS...?"  Or  "For as by one man's DISOBEDIENCE many were made DISOBEDIENT?  No, Paul says that Adam's disobedience is the CAUSE of men being sinners. It doesn't say HIS SINS ARE NOW THEIR SINS.  Where does this verse say anything like that?  Or that the many are GUILTY for the sins that Adam committed.  Or that the many are sinners, even if they NEVER SIN This verse does not say any of those things. But the statement is true: Adam's disobedience has made many into sinners.  How so? Remember that "NO Scripture is its OWN interpretation" (I Pet. 1:20)?  And we need TWO witnesses to establish every fact? Etc.  Okay.......let's back up a few verses in Rom. 5 to verse 12:

Wherefore, as by one man SIN entered into the world, DEATH BY sin: and so DEATH PASSED UPON ALL MEN [why? because 'ADAM' sinned?  NO, let's read it...]...for that   A-L-L   H-A-V-E    SINNED."

There's the answer. Adam's personal sin no more pass on to us making US guilty of HIS sins anymore than Eve's sins passed on to her husband.  We inherit our parent's (Adam and Eve) mortality and nature. We are not born with their SIN, but with their nature.  We are born with the "natural" mind, the Adamic mind, which is called "carnal" in the Scriptures. Notice: "Because the carnal [natural fleshly mind] is enmity against God: for IT is not subject to the law of God..." (Rom. 8:7).  It is not "Adam's sin in us" that is enmity against God, but rather OUR OWN CARNAL MINDS.  Notice what it is that came from the one man, Adam:  "For since by man came DEATH...for as IN Adam all DIE..." (I Cor. 15:21 & 22).

We are all guilty and accountable for OUR OWN SINS, not the sins of Adam or anyone else.

God be with you all,

Ray

Robin:
Thank you Brett, Ray, and Craig.

That was very helpful.

I think I need to go correct a post now. :)

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