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Is there something wrong with the way communion is done in christendom ?

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YellowStone:
Hi MrSnacks,

You have been given some wise counsel and there is not much more that I can add.

But let's look at what Paul has learned from the gospels.

1Cr 11:24  And when he had given thanks, he brake [it], and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.

1Cr 11:25  After the same manner also [he took] the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink [it], in remembrance of me.

It would seem that the Last Supper, was preceded with a prayer of thanks, in much the same way a prayer is offered today before beginning a meal. Do you see what I see? It is not the wine nor the bread, it is the act of eating and drinking that should be dedicated to the memory of Christ. It is not a ritual, rather it is acknowledging that while food and drink that we consume keeps one physically alive, it is the sacrifice Christ that Christ made that keeps us alive spiritually, lest we should ever forget.

These are my thoughts as I am given to understand,

Love in Christ,
Darren

musicman:

--- Quote from: mrsnacks on July 16, 2007, 10:12:14 AM ---Why ,why and why ?  ???

--- End quote ---

It's spiritual and not physical.  It's spirtual and not physical.  He's a heritic and not spiritual.

mrsnacks:
Thanks for all the wonderful and truthful input.

So Christendom is doing communion the first Sunday of each month as to imply by doing this little cracker and grape juice thing- we are being obedient to what Jesus has asks us to do. By taking part as a whole we are acknowledging the upper room event in which Christ commanded us to do this ritual in remembrance of Him. But the church has missed the point as all of you have stated in that Jesus spoke in parables. What comes out of a man is what defiles him and not what is on the outside. Meaning by doing this ritual doesn't mean we are making ourselves holier for doing it. What has come from within and out of ourselves has been man made traditions and rituals.

It is the acting of eating and drinking that is taking in physical food to nourish ourselves and keep us alive in the physical as we should be reminded of the food and drink of God's Word that will feed us and keep us alive spiritually. Man cannot live on bread alone but by the very Words of Jesus which is the true bread.

What it really sounds like is that Christ really wanted us to perform this ritual and doing this as honoring and remembering the last supper. The church is deceived by the true meaning.

Oblivion582:
Well, I know one thing, I can't stand the way Christendom does communion. Like you said...pooney crackers, tiny, tiny glass of grape juice. Even shot glasses are bigger than that! It makes me mad! I've had a problem with it for quite some time.

Kat:

Hi mrsnacks,

I found this email that might help.

http://bible-truths.com/email16.htm#prison

[Ray Replies]

Dear Almon:

Is it the fact that you find a Scripture stating something in the Word of God that you conclude that we should "do it?"

I have absolutely nothing against anyone who wishes to keep the Lord's supper. I have nothing against anyone who wishes to be circumcised or be baptized. I have nothing against anyone who wishes to sacrifice animals or offer sin offerings, burnt offerings, peace offerings and the like.

Gen. 6:14 commands:  "Make THEE an ark of gopher wood...." I have nothing against anyone who wants to follow this command and "Make an  ark of gopher wood."

There are hundreds of things commanded in the Scriptures. I have nothing against anyone who wishes to do ALL OF THEM. I don't. I never made an ark of gopher wood, and never intend to. 

Any just why don "I" do any of these things? Well, actually I used to do some of them. I used to pay my THREE tithes (oh you didn't know that there were THREE tithes?). I was water baptized. I used to wash my brothers feet, and I used to partake of the Lord's supper once a year. And now I don't. Why not? Because there is absolutely nothing physical that can make one spiritual.

Paul baptized at one time in his ministry and then he quit. Why? Because he put away childish things and went on to spiritual maturity.

Paul used to circumcise in his early ministry and then he quit. Why? Because he put away childish things and went on to spiritual maturity.

All physical rituals are CARNAL ordinances, and we are no longer under carnal ordinances. We are now under the "Law of the Spirit of Life." "We know longer know Jesus after the FLESH." Jesus HIMSELF said: "The flesh profits NOTHING." "The words that I speak unto you, they are SPIRIT and they are LIFE."

Although it was mighty important in Christ's time to worship in THIS mountain or in THAT mountain, Jesus Himself said that the time would come (and so it has) that we no longer worship here or there or in this manner or in that manner, with this set of physical rituals, or with that set of physical rituals, but rather WE WORSHIP IN SPIRIT AND IN TRUTH.

We are to WORSHIP IN SPIRIT AND IN TRUTH! Now then, does anyone think that we can add to those instructions by adding a few physical, carnal, rituals? I think not.

I hope this helps your understanding a little better.

God be with you,

Ray

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