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Oblivion582:
OK, so for me the whole "Law vs Grace" is quite confusing. After we repent in our heart, for our lustful eyes, offending hands, condeming feet, etc. (all sins) we are forgiven, and no longer have to worry about gehana fire, right?
I repent for the lust, the pride, lies, etc. that is in my heart...but I still fall prey to them. When I go to the gym all I see is attractive girls everywhere, and then lust enters and rules my heart and eyes again. But am I under grace now? Can I rest in God's love knowing that I still find pleasure and delight in the evil in my flesh? The "once saved, always saved" doctrine sounds so awesome and wonderful, and living under grace seems to say "hey, you're good now, you don't have to follow the law anymore, relax".
But does it make sense? Even though I ask God to forgive me for all my sins...I turn around and do it again! So then I ask for forgiveness again...and what do you know, I give in again. Sometimes it gets to a point where I just don't care that much and willfully sin. Actually, most of the sins I commit are my willing to them...and sometimes not.
Can somebody enlighten me about this law/grace thing? I wanna do right...but then, I DON'T wanna do right...because I still enjoy sin...even though I've repented/asked forgiveness.
(by the way, I come from a "once saved, HARDLY saved" background that says "if you cuss and then get hit by a car and die, you go to hell forever - which is crap I know)
Kat:
Hi Oblivion,
Here is an email that I think will help answer your question.
http://www.forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,2465.0.html --------------------
Dear Garrett:
Yours is a common frustration. Many write me with similar struggles
with the flesh after coming into a knowledge of the Truth. I did the
same. I left my First Love and went back into the world, all the while
knowing that I couldn't conquor my flesh. I was so happy for what I
'preceived to be "greasy grace." Thank God for grace, because I knew
I wasn't going to be saved without it.
I still believe that that part of it is true (about saved by grace only), but
I also know that it is possible when God gets ready, to conquor your
major sins so that sin no longer "reigns over you." You will not be totally
perfect and mature, but you will not be giving into every pull of the flesh,
for sexual gratification, lust for money, power, good looks, eternal youth,
perfect health, interesting job, travel and excitement, etc., etc., etc. You
will learn to enjoy the simple pleasure of life like, breathing, sleeping,
walking, talking to your wife, eating a pizza, and going to bed early on a
Saturday night.
God will make you really WANT to stop sinning, long before you will
ACTUALLY stop sinning. It's part of the struggle; part of the good
fight of faith; part of overcoming the flesh. Don't become discouraged, as
God WILL SEE YOUR THROUGH!
God be with you,
Ray
M_Oliver:
--- Quote from: Kat on July 16, 2007, 10:22:13 PM ---
God will make you really WANT to stop sinning, long before you will
ACTUALLY stop sinning.
God be with you,
Ray
--- End quote ---
So darn true! I'm with you Oblivion. Sometimes I get so frustrated with myself I want to give up but I know I don't have a choice in the matter. I often turn my frustration into a lesson of patience. I realize this is part of the process and keep hoping that one day I'll wake up and know that I will no longer do this or that that I currently cannot control and stand myself for doing. Just know you are definately not alone in this regard.
Mark
steve:
Hey,
I'm with you too! I get so worn out with my sin, and I don't feel like I have any choice. I can add that I think about the scripture that says if your hand offends you cut it off, and I reason, well what am I supposed to do if my whole life offends me. I do believe God has a purpose in our struggle. I will echo what Mark said. You are not alone.
Steve
okjohnson:
So, I guess not one is without sin.
Most in this world are unaware of their sin.
A great gift we have been given is to be able to recognize sin, so that we can work it out with our Father in heaven, that we might receive the greatest reward of all.
We do this through faith, cause grace will not save us . Since without faith we have not grace. Both of which we receive freely.
Is that about it ?
Orlando
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