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A question derived from one of ray's papers.
LittleBear:
As we have seen, the scriptures do tell us that there are witches and sorcerers, and that they do have power. We are to not do that. Why?
It seems to me that this power is to exert control over people, events, the world. The particular sorcerer wants to be powerful, and exalted, and to make a great name for him/herself. He thinks of himself very highly, better than all these others who do not have this power. Then he want the praise and adulation of these lesser types. He puts himself on the throne of his life and thinks he has control over all things. Sound familiar?
Love,
Ursula
Deborah-Leigh:
Rodger you say:
....focusing on these idiots rather then on God
So RIGHT!...and to add:
Those who believe in duel powers at war against one another in a bid to acquire Sovereignty do not know that God is ALL MIGHTY and Sovereign and there is non beside Him.
Many are seduced to focus on the idiocy of believing that Satan wars against God and has free will but in truth it is God who instructs Satan just how far he can go and Satan obeys! Satans lunch is man not God! ;D :D...especially deceived and foolish mankind believing in the illusion of power some profess to have.
Jer17:5 Thus says the Lord: Cursed with great evil is the strong man who trusts in and relies on frail man, making weak human flesh his arm, and whose mind and heart turn aside from the Lord.
Jer 23 : 16 Thus says the Lord of hosts: DO NOT LISTEN TO THE WORDS OF FALSE PROPHETS who prophesy to you. They teach you vanity, emptiness, falsity, and futility and fill you with vain hopes....
Peace be to you
Arcturus :)
joyful1:
Acturus-- I LOVE your scriptures from Jeremiah-- SOOO true!
Roger-- I want to hear about the 2 penguins who were vacationing in the Bahamas!
greetings everyone-- I'm BACK!! ;D
joyce
YellowStone:
--- Quote from: Falconn003 on July 22, 2007, 10:01:48 AM ---
--- Quote ---that there are witches and sorcerers, and that they do have power
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What a joke
lions, tigers, and bears, Oh my,,,,,,,,
All is of God.
I truthfully doubt any sorceror, witch, wizard, soothsayer, talisman, shame man,warlock, druid, spiritman, vodoo, magician, politician, evangelist, preacher, deacon, reverend,....ect can ever express one bit of power, unless God choose these idiots, to impose a more Spiritual power to the unbeliever. ((person who is focusing on these idiots rather then on God)).
The mention of these fools in Scripture, are in FACT in parables, which nullifies any beliefs of these fools or thier power. what a JOKE !
Hey !! Did you hear about the one were 2 penguins were vacationing in the Bahamas.....?
Rodger
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Hi Rodger, Your posts are usually awesome but this one sounds a little presumptuous (my opinion only :) )
By whose power are these "so called" idiots conducting their lives? Are they free to act in any other way? Are they not also the work of your Fathers hand, molded perfectly according to his purpose? How then can they be idiots? By caling such as these the same, are you not faulting their steps that are not theirs to direct, and totally igoring why God has purposed their life in this way?
You speak of the nullification the belief of these "Fools" yet who is the fool? The one who is blindly following the purpose God has given them, ignorant of all truth, because the truth is not yet theirs to see, hear or understand. NOT because of their chosing, but because of God's, or the one ignoring God's spiritual purpose?
How then can they be fools, without God being foolish also, for is HE not the one who purposed such as these this way? Of course HE did, but NOT so that we can laugh at and ridcule them, nor so that we can pity them. But rather that we can with all gratitude, thank and praise God for showing us his "Spirit of Truth" of dragging us to HIM and having compassion and patience with us second to none.
Such Idiots and Fools are to teach us humility in body and spirit, and this is a lesson we should never ignore.
I hope you take this post in the spirit it was written and that is a gentle reminder that all is of God and if one is unhappy with any of it, it is God they are unhappy with.
Your in Christ our Lord,
Darren
Deborah-Leigh:
Darren
You state:
How then can they be fools, without God being foolish also,
WHAT? …who said or implied such a thing? God knows evil. Does that make God evil? NO!
You continue :
for is HE not the one who purposed such as these this way? Of course HE did, but NOT so that we can laugh at and ridicule
them,
I believe you have not understood that when Rodger said “What a Joke” that he did not mean joke as in humorous but as in sarcasm and sarcasm is complimentary as it is intelligent wit!
You say Darren:
nor so that we can pity them. But rather that we can with all gratitude, thank and praise God for showing us his "Spirit of Truth" of dragging us to HIM and having compassion and patience with us second to none.
That is false Darren....what you are saying is be like the Pharisee who thanked God with many words that he was not anything like the tax collector who was beating his chest and repenting? Jesus warned against what you advocate Darren! Jesus warned us NOT TO BE grateful compared to others like the Pharisee expressed in his prayer up to God!
Luke 18:14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalts himself will be humbled, but he who humbles himself will be exalted.
What Jesus did say is rejoice NOT that the spirits are subject to you Luke 10: 20 Nevertheless, do not rejoice at this, that the spirits are subject to you, but rejoice that your names are enrolled in heaven.( they have to be subject to you FIRST…that being under your foot, heal on the serpents head so to speak and then ) rejoice rather that your names are recorded in heaven meaning that you are acting and behaving like Christ.
What you say to Rodger about all his previous posts being compared to this one that you evaluate as presumptuous, shows great elevation in the standards of Rodgers contributions in the Forum. If in fact this post is presumptuous then your comment is a huge compliment! How so?
Presumption – bold, forward, a belief or assumption based on reasonable evidence, an inference of the truth of a fact from other facts proved, admitted, or judicially noticed. To take as proved until contrary evidence is produced.
Ref : Collins English Dictionary.
So where is the contrary evidence Darren? (Rhetorical question.) :D
You say Darren : Rodger, Your posts are usually awesome but this one sounds a little presumptuous (my opinion only )
so add awesome which you describe Rodgers earlier posts as being, to presumptuous and that is THE WAY TO GO Rodger!! ;D
Presumption and sarcasm are not dirty words! ;D 8) :D
Peace to you
Arcturus :)
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