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A question derived from one of ray's papers.
sansmile:
Hi,
Are not spirits in prison ........ unbelievers, those in bondage to sin. Also God ALLOWS satan and his demons to wander.
Always search for His truths.
Sandie
Kat:
Hi gudazdead,
I think you have to understand the source for what witches and sorcery, and I believe that is magic.
Main Entry: mag·ic
Magian, magical, from magos magus, sorcerer, of Iranian origin; akin to Old Persian magus sorcerer
1 a : the use of means (as charms or spells) believed to have supernatural power over natural forces b : magic rites or incantations
2 a : an extraordinary power or influence seemingly from a supernatural source b : something that seems to cast a spell : ENCHANTMENT
3 : the art of producing illusions by sleight of hand
(Merrian Webster)
As I see this, it all means to seek to have power outside of God. These I believe is a religion in and unto itself.
It formed an essential element in many ancient religions, especially among the Persians, Chaldeans and Egyptians. (Smith Bible dictionary)
I think anybody who is seeking to serve and obey God would want to stay far away from this.
mercy, peace, and love
Kat
DuluthGA:
Lev 19: 31 Regard not them that have familiar spirits, neither seek after wizards, to be defiled by them: I am the LORD your God.
Lev 20: 6, 27 And the soul that turneth after such as have familiar spirits, and after wizards, to go a whoring after them, I will even set my face against that soul, and will cut him off from among his people..... A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them with stones: their blood shall be upon them.
Deut 18: 10-12 There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch,
[11] Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.
[12] For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee.
Rev 21: 8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
1Sam 15: 23 For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king.
2Chr 33: 6 And he caused his children to pass through the fire in the valley of the son of Hinnom: also he observed times, and used enchantments, and used witchcraft, and dealt with a familiar spirit, and with wizards: he wrought much evil in the sight of the LORD, to provoke him to anger.
Gal 5: 20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
That's just a FEW OF 'EM :o by searching the words wizard, witch, sorcerer/y, enchanter, diviner, etc.
Take care, Janice :)
Sorin:
So let me get this straight. You guys do believe in Sorcery, and Witchery, it's just that it is obviously forbidden in the Scripture. But you don't deny it. Am I correct in that assumption?
gmik:
Wow. Sorin, good question.
I guess I never believed in any of that stuff.
I alwys thought that if demons, ghosts, magic, and all that were real they would do more damage or take over. Even at Gettysburg I didn't believe in the ghosts there- they really believe the soldiers still walk around. To what purpose???
What about Hollywoods pretend sorcery-like Harry Potter?
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