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A question derived from one of ray's papers.
gmik:
--- Quote from: ez2u on July 24, 2007, 12:46:20 AM --- You know I just wonder how many of you here really know and I mean know what this means to be constantly buffeted by satan. If Richard wurmbrandt was here yes he would know he was torture for Christ under the streets Russia for 17 years. What is all this about with you guys. I know I sound rude but please besides my rudeness does anyone here really had this experience or is it just talking sounds. If you haven't walk through something how do you know what it really is? I knowyoustudythe scriptures to come to knowledge and some people talk like they have some knowledge. To know is a good word to look up in the Greek and hebrew. Head knowledge what does that profit a man with out walking through the firer of God. Peggy
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I think about people like Wurmbrandt and sooooooo many others. My life is a piece of cake compared to them. If the very ELECT are a small group of people from all of history, then wouldn't it likely be mostly martyrs for Jesus? Why should I even think I would be in the 1st resur.
Many threads here are filled w/ pain and suffering. But many, not all, are sometimes self induced-wrong choices, drugs, etc....
That is not suffering or persecution for Christs' sake.
I had always assumed Pauls splinter was in the natural from his life (as Janice had said). I was a big believer in demons and such till I came to BT. I sorta don't even think about it now. It seems out of place w/ these teachings. (I lumped it in w/ all the other pentecostal/charismatic/faith/prosperity errors).
This has been an awesome thread by the way. Kudos to all. Page 6 and still going-not locked!
seminole:
That' s so coolthat the thread is going on. it helps us know we aren't alone when people share what is in their lives. Nole
ez2u:
seminole Iam sorry I caused you or anyone else undue pain by what I said. My mind has been strange lately too many changes so quickly.Who Christ selects to be the elect I do not care I am just trying not to fall out of the salt shaker while it gets tipped over . Praise God thank you Lord Jesus for your sacrifes and God for your love.Peace and Joy in the Lord Jesus Christ Seminole.
Dean Peterman:
This is an interesting subject.
Deborah-Leigh:
Hello Dean
I think what makes this subject interesting for you, please correct me if I am wrong, is that you "have spent the last 20 years studying the Bible and Systematic Theology" that provides a rich backdrop for comparison.
When I was in Babylon I saw that Babylonian teachings bring the focus and fear into Satan's territory. The teachings given to me expressed such credibility and power to Satan and so much so that through the thick blanket of dark deception, the lies became large enough to deviate away from the dazzling good news of Jesus Christ, His Glorious Sovereignty, His Will and His Plan. It sure was an experience!
I noticed that by being induced with the darkness of Babylon. that the followers are soon taught to fear their own shadows so to speak or to be suspicious of dead objects and to treat with reverence any taught fear of which there are plenty available to Harlot Babylon to keep her subjects paralysed. Rejection of such tools of deception bring suspicions, accusations and threats that if fear policy of Babylon is not kept in tact then expulsion will follow! That is just one management principle of Babylon! There are many!
I saw others become so paralysed by such deceptions and so convinced they were the truth. Being blessed to receive the truth I now accept that Jesus visits Mystery Babylon to drag out a few of us! I know by contrast that Babylon does not quicken the spirit with truth, but paralyses her victims with the lull of her wine of wrath, lies, deception and comfortably couched heresies and blasphemies into which many sink very low. Low enough to join the ranks of demons with whom they fellowship on their stages of wonders and miracles in the precious name of our Lord Jesus Christ! "And these signs will follow you!" they declare as evidence of their piety and fellowship with familiar spirits.
I hope and trust that you are continuing to breathe in the fresh, cleansing, liberating Life of HIS Spirit via the teachings freely given and the example abundantly expressed by Ray Smith here at BT.
Peace to you
Arcturus. :)
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