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Do You Forgive? Do you?
okjohnson:
I do not believe that forgiveness is one sided.
I do not believe it is incumbent upon the one that was wronged to simply say I forgive you.
Just as we need to repent and ask our Father in heaven for forgiveness on a daily basis, I believe the individual who commits the wrong should ask for forgiveness before it is received. Otherwise there is no value in it.
I am sure that if the request for forgiveness is heartfelt, that all God's chosen would be quick to forgive.
I have known people who could not forgive even when an apology has been given.
Sue Creamer:
Even when it is not asked for, I believe forgiveness should be given. After all did not our Lord give that forgiveness to the whole world while he was being crucified on the cross, he forgave every human being who ever lived and will live, "Forgive them for they know not what they do" ??? :)
carol70:
Luk 17:3 Take heed to yourselves. If your brother trespasses against you, rebuke him. And if he repents, forgive him.
Luk 17:4 And if he trespasses against you seven times in a day, and seven times in a day turns again to you, saying, I repent, you shall forgive him.
Easier said than done, that's for sure!
okjohnson:
Hi Sue Ann
I think you are referring to the verse "Forgive them Father for they know not what they do.
Jesus was asking his Father in heaven to forgive them who wronged the Father . This request was for everyone who has broken the law. This request had to be made for our salvation. I think some people believe that Jesus was just asking forgiveness for those who hung him on the cross. We are all responsible for his death through sin.
Is my understanding of this wrong ?
When I said forgiveness is not one sided , I was talking about when someone wrongs you and does not ask your forgiveness. It becomes a personal thing between you and that person.
Of course, I would say to do as Jesus and ask your father in heaven to forgive them who trespass against you, because they know not what they do. And of course, many of your own trespasses are done in ignorance and unknownlingly(i.e. we know not what we do). It is very easy to make a decision that wrongs someone else without your ever knowing it.
Sue Creamer:
Hi Orlando,
I can sometimes be very hard to understand in my writings, my daughter says I write in "parables".. he he
You are so right about the prayer Christ gave, and I do believe it was not just for those who actually hung him on the cross but for all of creation because we all have sinned.
Let me see if I can word my thoughts better. I believe that the elect are to have the same mind as Christ when he cried out his prayer so long ago. As we are in Christ and he has forgiven all even before they repent, I believe that our mind set should be to forgive our fellow man in the same way (after all we are just as guilty). In my eyes it is not really a personal thing although we do take it that way. We all fall short of perfection, but I still believe we need to "practice" forgiveness even if that person didn't ask for it or even want it.
Some day when the Kingdom comes and all of the dead (all those who hurt us in this life) are brought to life, they will answer for their sins and I believe they will truly beg for forgiveness and be sooooo embarrassed and ashamed they commit ed grievous sins against other humans. We are to be living in Christ now and Christ has already forgiven them.
I have so enjoyed your post. Please know I am new to this forum and I pray I can learn to speak much better (not in parables) in time.
Sue Ann
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