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Beloved:
Oh My.... here we go again ....REMEMBER there is no need for division if we are ONE in Ghrist.
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(Ecc 12:11 REV) The words of the wise, are as goads, yea, as driven nails, their well-ordered sayings,-given from one shepherd.
(Ecc 12:12 REV) And besides, from them, my son, be admonished,-Of making many books, there is no end, and, much study, is a weariness of the flesh.
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(2Ti 4:1 ALT) Therefore, I strongly urge [you] before God and the Lord Jesus Christ, the One being about to be judging [the] living and [the] dead at His appearing and His kingdom.
(2Ti 4:2 ALT) Preach the word! Be ready in season [and] out of season [fig., whether the time is favorable or not], convict, rebuke, [and] encourage, with all patience and teaching.
(2Ti 4:3 ALT) For there will be a time when they themselves will not put up with sound teaching, _but_ according to their own lusts they will heap up teachers to themselves, itching in the ear [fig., craving to hear what they want to hear],
(2Ti 4:4 ALT) and on the one hand they will turn away the ear from the truth, on the other hand they will be turned aside to myths.
(2Ti 4:5 ALT) But _you_, be sober [or, clear-headed] in all [things]; endure hardship; do the work of an evangelist; completely fulfill your ministry.
Every thing that every man says, writes and does is only done... by the Will of God....... many will be fooled by thier own stupidi words and actions and a few while here on earth will look back at their own lives and will be so thoroughly ashamed that they will ask for the burining coal to cleanse them.
Beloved
May my new alias foever be Hot Lips
Beloved:
All the Scriptures that were included in the cannon and all the verse/words that were later added or deleted later(by the many) in translations were all done (by the Will of God) to add to their own "delusion"
The study of church history is extremely laborious and to many people it can also be extremely boring. Many are not interested in the academics or the "who done it facts". I am like Pax who like to study and read this stuff and when I read it, I often sit in wonderment of the "facts".
On the other hand, I do not care if history, the bathwater or even the tub are thrown out. Studying science , medicine and yes even church history etc is an academic and carnal exercise (Boy do I love to do it.). Sometimes I can get so caught up in it that I have to look at it as it is ....as form of mental masturbation.(I do not mean to offend...I mean this spirituallY)
Remember : One one thing is needful and Mary ( aka the lazarus sister) has chosen that good part.
Beloved
Bleoved
DuluthGA:
Thank you Beloved, I really appreciated your post! Thanks for that reminder that God has manipulated the formation of the canon per His will. Yes, the related studies and academics have got to get done! He gives us each our lot to perform! God bless your theological endeavors. And Pax's.
Double amen to Randy and Pera!
And Dean, remember you're in Ray's "country" here on this forum, and when you die, THERE ARE NO PEARLY GATES, YOU DO CEASE TO EXIST JUST LIKE A SQUASHED MOSQUITO! I pray for your understanding in this. I am rebounding your own words and not intending to sound harsh. We all, quite simply, will sleep and rest in an unperceiving state until our resurrections. ;)
Janice
Deborah-Leigh:
Pax
You say :Arcturus, I have no idea what point you are trying to make.
Pax....Pax...it was not MY POINT made it was God's point made. Here it is again!
Proverbs 15:10 There is severe discipline for him who forsakes God's way; and he who hates reproof will die physically, morally and spiritually. 12 A scorner has no love for one who rebukes him; neither will he go to the wise for counsel.
Proverbs 1:5 The wise also will hear and increase in learning, and the person of understanding will acquire skill and attain to sound counsel, so that he may be able to steer his course rightly.
Proverbs 9:8 Reprove not a scorner, lest he hate you; reprove a wise man, and he will love you.
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Peace to you
Arcturus[/color] :)
Dean Peterman:
Dear Pax,
I understand your point of view on this and so I agree that we bring this discussion to an end. However, I want you to know one thing. I am concerned about you. I do not want you to end up losing your faith like Ehrman and so many others. Always remember that Ehrman's ultimate conclusions are not correct. I acknowledge he is a brilliant scholar but he is wrong in his final analysis of the information. PLEASE, guard yourself from being led too far down that road of skepticism.
A friend of mine made the statement below and I hope someday I can be as humble as him.
"I was an arrogant person who thought I knew all the answers to all the big questions in the world. Now I realize that I really know nothing. All I know is that Christ knew all the answers and that He has the answers for every single person who has ever existed and ever will exist. And that if we look to Him, it is Him alone who can solve our problems and give us what we really need, in every possible way. I hope that God will work in my life in the ways that He knows is necessary, and that He will do the same for everyone else in every way that everybody else needs. And I hope that God will draw all souls in the world towards Jesus Christ, because it is only in Jesus that we can find the way."
Janice, I wanted to clarify something. I understand that there is not an immortal soul. I was making the point that Ehrman is making the claim that God does not exist and therefore when we die we are dead and gone FOREVER with no hope to be resurrected. This is not a debate about differences in our theology. Ehrman believes God does not exist, Jesus never existed and the Bible is a book of lies and falsehoods. I don’t agree with this.
Sincerely,
Dean
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