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Harryfeat:

--- Quote from: bobbys43 ---My brother is a christian and he celebrates all these pagan holidays! That is what started the fleshly ball rolling!! he has actually been angry with me for sometime since I shared the truths of God with him some time ago! Again I should have let that go then!
 He accused me of being in a cult,i forgave him, he accused me of not assembling with the church of babylon, i forgave him, he accused me of dictating my friends and family, i forgave him.
 There is really more to the story than meets the eye but I will pray God will give me more patient because after all; I WAS JUST LIKE THAT!!!BLIND AND DEAF!!!

bobby
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I have a similar relationship to my family. They are catholics as well as my wife daughter and inlaws.  

I know that your enthusiasm has gotten the better of your patience with your brother.  I had the same problem initially until my wife told me to stop trying to shove  all that "stuff" down her throat.  

It is hard to be so excited about something and not have those you love the most share it with you.  I told my family that I am just so excited that I couldn't help myself and didn't realize how insensitive I was to them.  I don't push it anymore.  They have forgiven me and once in a while ask a question or two.  

It will come in time with God's will.  Don't worry about it.  

I am glad you emailed your brother.  Even with what you have described above, he seems a lot more patient than my clan.



Happy Ishtar  :shock:  :lol:


May your enthusiasm [and sense of humor]  never wane

feat

jennie:
Bobby, It took a lot of courage and love for you to apologize to your brother. God isn't going to forget that. I am going to pray for reconciliation so that you both can enjoy one another while agreeing to disagree. God knows your heart as well as all of our hearts. I can see in my mind's eye that He is holding you in the palm of His hand right now. I hope that all goes well with you in this situation.

Laren:
Hi everyone;  I have a family that is rooted deep in doctrine of eternal torment/hell fire.  I've had the opportunity to share with my mom and dad, who are a little receptive; at least not condeming of UR.  My one sister, very similar to Bobby's brother thinks I'm in a cult; and my other sister who is a Christian Counselor doesn't really have much to say, other than "you're wrong".  

Anyway, I decided to send my sister an email, and am asking all of you to pray that her eyes will be opened.  This is what I wrote:

Hi Kristi, went through your website last night.  I thot it was well put together and professional.  Looks good to me.  
 
I have to tell you though, I cried, no joke; when I read your statement of faith.  I know u think I'm misled re: Christ's victory at the cross for all mankind.  I know u think that man can thwart the power of the cross.  It saddens me so, beyond words.  
 
You write:  "We believe in the personal return of Jesus Christ, the eternal damnation in a literal hell for the unsaved, and everlasting life with the living God for the righteous."
 
 
 
God tells us to forgive our enemies, to love our enemies, yet he turns around and burns trillions in literal hell fire.    
 
Would u please read thru this website, not to change your belief; but at least to understand where I am coming from.  
 
This is just an introductory site, but explains how one can believe what I believe.  
 
I have found, one can debate arminiansim sp?, calvanism, etc. with scripture; but only the spirit can open eyes.  The beast within all of us, doesn't want God to save all, we want to be special because we chose Christ, we want Hitler and Bill (an uncle who severly sexually abused her) to burn forever.  We don't want to admit that God really is in control of everything.  We believe that created in his image means now, failing to realize it is the risen image of Christ that we are being created into.  The law, sin and death, evil are all a part of his plan to draw us to the resurrected power of Christ at tthe cross.    
 
You, Dad, mom and many others are so blinded by doctrine in my opinion; not willing to challenge your own beliefs.  
 
My heart aches that anyone could attribute the most sickening terroristic event ever to our Lord and Savior.  I dare you to step into a very hot tub of water, hotter than you can stand, and stay there longer than one minute.  Now multiply that by billions of years, and u have not even came close to the "love of our Savior".  Now instead of you in the water, hold kristian (4 year old son) in there.  What a savior.    
 
Christ accomplished it all at the cross.  Believe it.  The true doctrine of Christ:  LOVE
 
Love:  1Co 13:5 doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not its own, is not provoked, taketh not account of evil;
 
I love you, and hope you will read, if anything at least to understand where the Holy Spirit has led me.  
 
http://www.savior-of-all.com/cross.html
 
http://www.savior-of-all.com/




Again, please pray for her.  Maybe i'm wrong, but i would love just one family member of mine to see the real Christ.  

Thanks.

Harryfeat:
Hi Laren,

I have the same wish as you.  You might also try to get her thinking with a simple question that she can research on her own.

Ask her: What did the early disciples believe in the first 300 years prior the the pagan Constantine establishing the RCC and commissioning a bible to be assembled?

It started my brother in law thinking and researching.

Bobby, This question might also break some ice with your brother. Based on your additional input, he may not respond to it but it is a valid question to ask what did they believe prior to the bible and its subsequent errors in translation of original scripture.

Maybe God's will can help them begin to see the truth.

feat

Harryfeat:

--- Quote from: bobbys43 ---Thank you Feat and that would be a good question to get him thinking and searching!
 I just hope I can come to that point of maturity that you seem to have come to!!
Thank you brother,

bobby
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Thanks bobby but I have been dealing with this long before BT was around.

Since your brother thinks BT is a cult, then you need to direct him to alternate sources.  I hope the suggestion starts the ball rolling.  Just remember that he will be saved regardless and you need to slow things down. Let some time help let things sink in.  If he finds things on his own, then he can save face and come back to you with the same enthusiasm and excitement that you have about finding the truth.

blessings
feat

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