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oneofthefew:
Hi Everyone,

Thank you so much for welcoming me and for all your inputs. I read all the links all of you suggested and got a better understanding.

Good day to you all.

oneofthefew

Beloved:
The word Gift as used in scipture is  most often taken by the carnal mind as a carnal thing . Therefore they totally miss the spiritual nuances. God through the death of His Son, has "stooped down"  and given redemtion of all men to every man. Man is not able to "take" this spiritual gift because he usually remains fixated on the carnal gift. 

AS we all know our salvation is based on the Faith Of Chirst........ not on any man's faith. I like how Ray put it in this email

Faith is the assurance that God's Word is Truth and that God will do all that He has promised.  This assurance (faith) is a GIFT of God and cannot be obtained by any human endeavor (Eph. 2:8-9).  Reading and hearing the Scriptures can increase your faith, BUT ONLY BECAUSE GOD SUPERNATURALLY GIVES YOU THAT FAITH AND ASSURANCE, as you read and hear.  Through faith you will both know God's will and live God's will.  You must go to God for faith--there is no other source of true spiritual faith and assurance of God's trustworthiness.

God be with you,

Ray

God the Father is the AMEN ( Total Assurance Faithfullness and Love) ..... Jesus is the TRUTH (the AMETH in hebrew which is the feminine form of Amen and He is the Way.   Christ died for us.

That is why I like to define the "gift" faith as ... is the ability to die to self. WE are totally incapable of doing this on own. We are totally absorbed with self. (Even when a mother dies for the sake of her chld she is doing it because the child represents herself) 
 
Faith is a gift and it comes from God though the hearing the Word . The Word needs to be preached by foolish preachers so foolish people may be enabled to hear and see.

Faith becomes stronger the more you die and release your ego  and let God dominate your life.  Faith becomes stronger through obedience because these acts demonstrate in the physical what is happening in the spiritual. Those who see and hear need to daily renew our minds so we can be obedient to God's Word

Faith is not about belief, it is not the faith of man but the Faith OF Jesus Christ. From the very beginning of the universe Jesus knew God's plan and totally trusted the Father for the fulfillment of His Word.
 
Perhaps the confusion is is about spirit/soul salvation. The spirit is born again as a seed but our souls need to work out their own salvation and "lambando" recieve and guard the teachings of Jesus  and turn our souls around so they will conform to the image of Christ ...but this too is done by Jesus Christ and not by ourselves ( less we boast) because He worketh in us to do Good.
Beloved: 

Dean Peterman:
In my experience the gift analogy is used by people that want to separate Jesus and salvation.  They think we don't have to follow Jesus we just have to accept the gift.

Seraphim:
Dear oneofthefew,
I'm a newbie too and this is my first reply to somebody.Welcome! :)

To be honest, I don't know much about the ''Gift analogy". But, what I am aware of is that God made us all unique. That means that we all have stuff that we are good at and there is also stuff we are not so good at.
Somewhere in all this is a "Gift from God"; whether it is a talent that we can pursue, or whether it is a spiritual gift - like Ray's talent at interpreting the bible scriptures. What is important is that we each can conform to our individuality and, through the Holy Spirit, that particular Spiritual Gift can be lit up in our being and in our lives.

Gosh, I wonder what gifts the people on this site have - it could be really beautiful. Yes?

iris:
Hi Seraphim,

I'd like to welcome you to the forum.

I can tell you a gift that some of the people here on the forum have...that is the gift of putting down in words their very deep thoughts. And as i read over their posts its like having a song in my head. A great big thank you to those who are able to do this!!! It has helped me to grow.


Iris

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