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Oblivion582:

--- Quote ---And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: fear Him which is able to destroy both soul and body in gehenna (Matt. 10:28).
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What does this mean? It sounds like someone could kill a person, but not their soul? I thought if you kill someone, their soul dies? It sounds like Jesus said people can kill the BODY...but not the soul. Any thoughts on this?

Kat:

Hi Falconn,

Cool diagram  :)

I think people fear the unknown and that is what death is to them.  Regardless that Christiandom teaches they will go to heaven, since there is no scripture to explain their vague teaching, people don't have confidence.  So death is a great unknown and it scares people.  They hang on to the hope that they are immortal and will pass into some Paradise. 
The scripture that I think they use;

2Co 5:8  We are confident, yes, well pleased rather to be absent from the body and to be present with the Lord.

They say this verse means they will immediately be with the Lord at death.  Not so, 'to be' does not mean immediate, they read that into it because of their false way of thinking.
When they awake they are going to be with the Lord alright, but it will be at the great white throne judgment.  They are not taught they will have to give account, they think their sins are forgiven and that's that.  When they are made to face up to their lusts, it will be a tormenting experience to get rid of them. 
Death is not to be feared.  The judgment is.

mercy, peace, and love
Kat

Oblivion582:

--- Quote ---2Co 5:8  We are confident, yes, well pleased rather to be absent from the body and to be present with the Lord.
--- End quote ---

It sounds like he's not even talking about the resurrection. The resurrection = body/spirit. He said to be 'absent' from the 'body'. When the resurrection comes, we'll be present with our bodies. So...maybe he's talking about crucifying the flesh?

ez2u:
This is a wonderful teaching that helps us to get focus on our job in obedience to christ. peggy

hillsbororiver:
Hello Oblivion,

Actually I can see it as Paul looking forward to the resurrection even as he experiences this dying to the flesh.

Hi Rodger,

Yes! A new incorruptable body, no longer subject to sin.

1Co 15:52  In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
 
1Co 15:53  For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

The destruction of this body of sin and to be resurrected incorruptable should be the hope of us all, seeking Him in Spirit is our walk, our journey, the crucifying of our carnal nature and the conception of His Spirit within us is what gives us that hope.

Rom 6:6  Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
 
Rom 8:10  And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

His Peace to you,

Joe
 

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