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seminole:
Joe I appreciate all you just wrote. I didn't mean to cause Arcturus , Rodger or anyone any ill feeling. Arcturus, I don't know as much as you. I don't even pretend to know half as much. I do have a hard time retaining information because of physical trauma that my body went through a long time ago. I kind of feel like I am back at school in trouble and talked down to because I couldn't retain info. good.All I am knowing of the path I am on right now is the path of learning more of the Bible and how God wants me to live my life. I am sure that I am much more immature spiritually tan many are but my only wish is to grow towards maturity. Thanks folks and I would ask forgiveness of Arcturus and Rodger for any hardship I have been.
Seminole
Jackie Lee:
Great post Joe wrote full of Wisdom Compassion and Love....Yet not compromising the truth one iota.
Deborah-Leigh:
Quoting and in AGREEMENT with Ray:
Must we all be theologians with a 150 IQ to understand these things? That leaves me out....
All Scripture is inspired, and all Scripture is true, but no one Scripture fully explains and interprets itself....Why is no Scripture its OWN interpretation, we might ask? To protect the integrity of the Scriptures, for one thing. ALL twelve of these spiritual principles are to be used together in explaining the Scriptures. If every Scripture or even any Scripture can be its "own interpretation," then we wouldn’t need the other eleven principles.http://bible-truths.com/twelve.htm
TWELVE GOD-GIVEN TRUTHS TO UNDERSTAND HIS WORD
"None of the wicked shall understand; but the Wise shall understand" (Daniel 12:10)
To the carnal mind,.... Scriptures are contradictions...............
Every single person I know that has stopped growing, spiritually, begins to go backwards, loosing what light they may have possessed because they are no longer faithful to the Word and commandments of Almighty God.
They all possess one or more "idols of the heart," that they will not give up or repent of. Sadly, in most cases, (even when backed into an indefensible corner with the Scriptures), it is extremely rare that such ones will acknowledge their sin and repent of their error. Over time such individuals usually become bitter, after which it is only a matter of time before Satan has them for lunch!
These twelve spiritual truths are not just helpful in understanding God’s word; they are essential. Without them, you cannot understand anything spiritual in the Scriptures. To the degree that you deny or leave off one or more of them is the degree that your spiritual understanding diminishes. Apply them all, always, and you will see spiritual revelation like you never even thought possible.
Seminole
You ask forgiveness for any hardship you have been to me.
Sure I forgive you...seventy seven times seven times. :D
Peace to you
Arcturus :)
seminole:
Thank You
Harryfeat:
--- Quote from: Oblivion582 on July 22, 2007, 05:45:13 PM ---Thanks guys. Keep the comments coming because I want to be totally convinced of this. I've seen alot of the scriptures that say we're dead...but I now I just want all the objections settled. But not only will it be clear for me, I'll be able to have a answer to the fundies.
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Hey Oblivion,
After you got "smacked around" a bit :D, I lost track of where this thread really went. I am not sure whether this thread got you to where you wanted to be. I can say that a lot of study on your part can only help. It took me more that one reading [sometimes several] of Ray's articles to get a better understanding of what he was saying. You have been given a some helpful paths to follow and I hope you take advantage of the help you have been given. I also hope that you do not feel reluctant to ask more questions.
Joe and Diana,
Thank you so much for your posts. Both of you are so well spoken and I am certainly of like mind with both of you on this.
Arcturus,
I hear you loud and clear. I am no stranger to tough love on both issuing and receiving ends. What it gets down to with me is where it is appropriate. I hear so much that we need to be like Jesus as a reason for being rude and sarcastic. It is true that we need to try to be as much like Jesus as we can possibly be as God will allow. Even so, I am scratching my brain trying to come up with examples of where Jesus treated his apostles the same way he treated the scribes and pharisees. Perhaps some scriptural quotes along those lines will help in the discernment of this.
Until we know a person is not truly seeking truth or unless they go against the rules, why are we not to treat them as Jesus did his apostles. What good does it do to beat up Christ's lambs except to bolster our own egos. Edifying responses and guidance really make more sense to me. If we question a person's motives then, as Craig said, the moderators can deal with it. You can always take a firm hand without being lovey dovey or rude.
Jackie Lee
Thanks for those cites on the tongue. It sort of gave me an alternate way of thinking about "speaking in tongues" ;D
be blessed
feat
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