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seminole:
I don't think these people are innocent. If there is a "sickness" that causes this type of thing or circumstances that people lived in they still can choose not to act on it. God made them that way? They had to do it? Did I have to be burned by a psycho stepfather? Was that God's plan? Because I was mis-treated in my circumstances does not mean I have the right or excuse to mis-treat anyone else.
UncleBeau:
--- Quote ---If there is a "sickness" that causes this type of thing or circumstances that people lived in they still can choose not to act on it.
--- End quote ---
CAN they choose? Can those who are accustom to doing evil do good instead? No one said they are innocent. That's like looking at a blue sky and calling it yellow.
seminole:
They can turn their backs and walk away.
hebrewroots98:
I think it was Dr. James Dobson that said that "all it takes to become hooked for life, for many people, is to take just ONE LOOK at a pornographic picture." How addictive!!!! Satan has his tools and has many Millenia to work on knowing how to trip up human beings into sinning against THE LORD. It is everywhere and nearly inescapable...I was looking up a 'christian radio station' and I typed in the name plus a 'dot com', and it was a porn site all because I didn't use 'dot net'! I remember when I was 19 yrs old and went into the bathroom of a relative...I was stunned! He had two 5 foot stacks of all of these different porn magazines. I never felt comfortable around him after that, and that was 28 yrs ago!... ??? I really think that porn is the hook, line, and sinker for too many people; especailly males!!!! Be careful dear brothers!
Kat:
Here is an email from Ray that I think fits with this discussion.
http://www.forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,1744.0.html ----
I understand that these things are "spiritually discerned," and that people frustrate themselves over trying to understand spiritual things with a carnal mind. When a man rapes a little girl, IT ASSUREDLY IS NOT GOD! When one prays to be rich and famous, IT ASSUREDLY IS NOT GOD! ALL IS OF GOD, but not is all of God directly. God created man--man SINS, God if free from sin and never sins or MAKES OR FORCES anyone to sin. Neither does He FORCE people to be rich or famous. God created man and man chooses what he does based on the strongest motivation in his heart.
And most people's heart consists of lust, lies, blasphemy and the like.
"Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempts he any man: but every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of HIS OWN LUSTS [whether for bad and evil things or for for what we may perceive as good things which may not be good or righteous things], and enticed" (James 1:13-14).
Man has the ability to make choices. He does not have the ability to make choices that are free from any cause. The "cause" of most of our choices is our mind and heart. And of the abundance of our heart, our mind thinks, our tongue speaks, and in our body we take physical action. Only God can give us a "new" and pure heart.
God be with you,
Ray
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