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Spiritual Pendulum
buddyjc:
Wow Joe, and everyone else, I was just thinking about this a couple of days ago. Spiritual pendulum is a great way of describing it. God knows we can't take it all at once.
Brian W.
orion77:
Joe, great thread and posts by everyone. I understand exactly where you are coming from. It truly is a daily battle, dying to the flesh and growing in patience through tribulations.
From my own experiences, most of the tribulations come from misconceived ideas and slanderous accusations from others. But, I know it is only because their eyes are not opened and they do not recognize who the beast is.
When in the middle of these kind of tribulations, I look towards God, His plan and character...what I see, is this has been happening to Him since the beginning of time...and not just Him, but the prophets, apostles, true saints, and especially His son, our Lord...now I begin to see that I am in good company...this has a great tendency to help endure and bring the joy back.
We have to remember our reward is not of this world. Our lot is to endure, suffer, love and forgive our enemies. These things are not what the world are looking to achieve, let alone to go through. But we must and will, because it is our Fathers will for the life He gave us.
The joy we have is so great that noone can take it away, it is beyond words to express. Our Father will take care of us and uphold us, no matter what we endure. Look at history and the many, many brethren and sisters who have willingly or unwillingly given their lives for their belief. Truly, for one to endure this, their joy is remarkable and just.
This is a great thread and can run very deep. Definetly a subject we all ponder time to time. I count myself very lucky to suffer for His names sake. I no longer care about what the world cares about. As Paul said, they are as dung. It truly is no longer us who lives, but He who is in us.
God bless,
Gary
ertsky:
who can't relate to that Joe !
i know i certainly can, and also elijah
one minute he is powering,
1Ki 18:40 And Elijah said unto them, Take the prophets of Baal; let not one of them escape. And they took them: and Elijah brought them down to the brook Kishon, and slew them there.
next minute it is "kill me now" LOL!
1Ki 19:4 But he himself went a day's journey into the wilderness, and came and sat down under a juniper tree: and he requested for himself that he might die; and said, It is enough; now, O LORD, take away my life; for I am not better than my fathers.
to me it seems all connected with the destruction of the flesh, the dying to self
Phi 3:3 For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.
growing to that point where we know that in our flesh dwells no good thing and continually trusting only in Christ to be all.
surely this is a mega process.
and it seems that we all are engaged in that process by God.
it's encouraging to talk about it.
God must chasten and scourge us and also encourage and comfort us until ALL that is not of Him is done away with or died to.
in our experience, not just theoretically.
thanks for the encouragement Joe and All
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orion77:
Amen, to that ertsky. It is very uplifting to share our experiences and then to find out, we are not alone in our suffering and in the joy.
This is what makes us one with each other as the Father and Son are one with us now. How could we know what real joy is without the suffering?
This is a great thread, I love it! :D 8)
God bless,
Gary
hillsbororiver:
Psa 51:2 Wash me throughly from mine iniquity and cleanse me from my sin.
Psa 51:3 For I acknowledge my transgressions: and my sin is ever before me.
Psa 51:4 Against thee, thee only, have I sinned, and done this evil in thy sight: that thou mightest be justified when thou speakest, and be clear when thou judgest.
Psa 51:5 Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.
Psa 51:6 Behold, thou desirest truth in the inward parts: and in the hidden part thou shalt make me to know wisdom.
Psa 51:7 Purge me with hyssop, and I shall be clean: wash me, and I shall be whiter than snow.
Psa 51:8 Make me to hear joy and gladness; that the bones which thou hast broken may rejoice.
Psa 51:9 Hide thy face from my sins, and blot out all mine iniquities.
Psa 51:10 Create in me a clean heart, O God; and renew a right spirit within me.
Psa 51:11 Cast me not away from thy presence; and take not thy holy spirit from me.
Psa 51:12 Restore unto me the joy of thy salvation; and uphold me with thy free spirit.
hyssop
An essential oil made from hyssop increases alertness and is a gently relaxing nerve tonic suitable for treating nervous exhaustion, overwork, anxiety and depression.
Is this referring to a "spiritual hyssop"? Sure sounds like a description of the Holy Spirit's presence in us.
I have found so many references to this experience we are having, what a glorious God we have!
Joe
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