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musicman:
--- Quote from: In Medias Res on July 27, 2007, 02:43:32 AM ---Musicman,
You state:
--- Quote from: musicman on July 26, 2007, 10:16:15 PM ---One last time. It is impossible for anyone to have a free will. Not even God can have a free will. His acts in creation are caused by His will. He did not create His own will.
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Can you provide scriptural witness to support this statement?
God's Peace.
Josh
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I don't think that the scriptures meantion where God came from. But however He became God, His will came with Him. Ray talks about this in one of his papers. God is a product of His own will, just as we are (the difference being that our wills constantly change). Ray uses the silly age old question "can God make a rock so heavy that He cannot lift it"? Well, if the rock represents freewill, then the answer is no. God is what He is. Maybe there's a scripture for this buried somewhere but remember, there are many scientific laws that are not mentioned in the bible.
vicsant:
Mat 25:46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
This verse clearly talks about everlasting punishment. If ALL will be saved, then what does this verse mean?
Who will go away into everlasting punishment?
Vic
Harryfeat:
Hey Vicsant,
Welcome to the forum.
Try reading the following translations of that verse and see if you come up with a different perspective on this.
(CLV) And these shall be coming away into chastening eonian, yet the just into life eonian."
(KJV) And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
(Rotherham) And, these, shall go away, into, age-abiding, correction, but, the righteous, into, age-abiding, life.
Please spend some time reading Ray's articles at Bible-Truths. A lot of what he has to say in dispelling old unscriptural doctrines has a basis in faulty translations or just plain errors in translations from the original language of the scriptures.
be blessed
feat
seminole:
I don't get it. God's will is not God's will? Something else caused God 's will? That is too much for me to understand.
Harryfeat:
I agree Nole, I have just been sitting back waiting for clarification if it ever comes. ;D
feat
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