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A shadow of things to come
gmik:
Joe, it is interesting that Timothy was told the holy scriptures would make him wise unto salvation....
and wasn't that speaking of the OT or was that just the first 5 books, or the prophets??? Was that saying that all you need is the OT to find Christ...
hillsbororiver:
Hi Gena,
Remember these letters were not only for the addressees but for all believers through all the generations, it is true though that the OT was full of prophecies of Christ (Isaiah especially comes to mind) but the NT amplifies the OT prophecies, it is a testimonial record of the fulfilment of all things through Christ.
His Peace to you,
Joe
Kat:
Thanks Joe, your insight into this matter is appreciated.
mercy, peace, and love
Kat
bambam:
Interesting input from everyone!! ;) Sometimes I think about what people had before the old testament came into being. There were many generations of people who lived before Moses and the prophets. What I find interesting, and what led me to the question in the beginning of this thread, was the fact that averything seems to be happening in stages. From the beginning creation to the new testament, things happened in certain ways in each generation. But how many people actually knew what the Old Covenant really meant? Not many. Just as with the New Testament. Someday all those that thought they new the Bible and what it means are going to look back just as we are able to do with the Old Testament. I can picture people saying, "Oh that's what the New Testament was all about." I honestly can't sit here and quote scripture to back my rambling thoughts, but as I read and study, these are the things that have been coming into my heart. ;D
Blessings,
Beth
Bradigans:
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--- Quote from: Bradigans on July 29, 2007, 08:37:49 PM ---As far as the New Testament being a shadow like the Old Testament, I'm not certain. Matthew 11:13 says - For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.Also read Hebrews 8:1-5 about the Old Testament Tabernacle (law and prophets) being a pattern and foreshadow of things to come. Do you have any scripture to support that notion of New Testament being possibly a shadow like the Old Testament?
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Hi Bradigans.
You ask: "Do you have any scripture to support that notion of New Testament being possibly a shadow like the Old Testament?"
I am not sure what you were thinking when you asked this question. :)
1Cr 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
1Cr 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
1Cr 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
The whole Greek Scriptures speak of npthing but the coming Kindom of God.
Luk 11:2 And he said unto them, When ye pray, say, Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth.
Mans, interpreation of God's Word will be done away with. Even the need for fleshly apostles to convey the Word to the masses. The coming Kingdom and all that will be required of the chosen will bring about something no man can foretell. Not even the NT. For it, is merely a shadow of what is to come.
I am sure you can see this :)
Love in Christ,
Darren
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My question is this, is the kingdom already here waiting for some of us to by faith enter in? Jesus said in John 6:63 - It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. Luke 17:20-21 says - And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation (2 Corinthians 5:7): neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.What is this kingdom of God that's suppose to be in you? Romans 14:17 says - For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.Is the kingdom related to the fruit of THE SPIRIT? I'm not stating anything here. I'm finding out, i don't know anything. I'm just posing a question here in regard to my limited knowledge and insight. Again, is THE KINGDOM a plain of spirituality? John the baptist did say I believe in anticipation the coming of Christ and His Church in Matthew 3:2 - Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. Is the kingdom already here awaiting some of us by faith to enter in? Hebrews 4:11 - Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.
I know I may be way off here in my quest for the truth. I do believe though that there are some folks living on some high spiritual plains. We would probably never notice them in our affluent society based on what we call their circumstance and plight in life. They go unnoticed. I would love to get to that other side, but know now that I am yet too carnal and plugged in. I still want things to be too convenient. I want to experience the kingdom, but not the pain it may take to get there. Matthew 16:24 - Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.I more or less here right now. Luke 9:62 - And Jesus said unto him, No man, having put his hand to the plough, and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God.I believe I'm beginning to look back like the nation Israel because I'm wondering when will all the pain end. I know I went off on a tangent.
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