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What Do The Denominations Have Right?
hillsbororiver:
--- Quote from: CEO on August 04, 2007, 12:20:29 PM ---Joe (Your comments are in bold, mine blue, the Lord's red)
We join the church for her truths, we leave the church for her lies.
There are many truths the Southern baptists have right-
We are created beings. (We are in the process of being created in His image, we are not there yet.)
Our creator loves us and wants what is best for us. (He will burn many in an eternal hell hole for eternity)
God's ways are better than our ways. (Who among us would burn, torture people forever because they did not know our name?)
The scriptures are God's word to man and are inerrant infallible and inspired (How about this verse, I can provide scores more as to God's will to save all, do they believe this? Joh 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.)
What is in the heart is what really matters and is reflected in action (Jer 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?)
Forgiveness of sins. (Eternal hell?)
Now we see through a mirror darkly. (I think you mean 1Co 13:12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. Sure they quote some verses but what do they say this really means? You need a preacher in a pulpit teaching man made doctrines such as the 2 compartments of Hell?)
The ten commandments are a guide for good living (Since the laws of almost every nation are based on these commandments they have a lot of company but what is the spiritual lesson they teach here? Do they truly love their brothers or do they promote war and nationalism right within their doors? 1Jn 4:20 If a man say, I love God and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?
1Jn 4:21 And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also.
They pay lip service to many verses but the teachings are diametrically opposed to the spiritual lesson Christ and the apostles (through His Spirit) taught.)
Priesthood of the believer (The Kings and Priests spoken of (the elect) are in the age to come not in this present age; 1Pe 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should show forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvelous light:)
Then they miss on The sovereignity of God, free will, heaven, hell, ressurection, trinity, rapture, death, judgment,spirituality, new covenant, kingdom of god.
I could not agree more!
But they really do not get anything right it is all tainted, reflected light filtered through the doctrines of men.
I am so glad Ray has enabled me to see so much so clearly.
Amen Brother!
Askseeknock
Charles O
His Peace to you Charles,
Joe
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SixFour:
Hello Everyone...
Joe,
I can only say this for the two churches I was a part of before I really left Babylon: They were both "Word Of Faith" churches, influenced heavily by Fred Price and Oral Roberts. Both pastors (one being a close friend) were exemplary when it came to integrity and teaching practical things about family, marriages and relationships. Neither of these guys spoke of money as do a lot of pastors in their "circle." Nevertheless, I couldn't sit in one of their services comfortably now, even if I was in a "Lazy-Boy." They both would take scripture out of context like taking a piece of a puzzle, putting it on a table, and then saying "It's completed!" I would always scratch my head at some of their teachings, but then conclude: "He's the pastor...he must know what he's talking about."
James
hillsbororiver:
Cindy,
Yes! You nailed it Sister! They will quote wonderful beautiful scriptures and turn God into a weak, vengeful, unforgiving tyrant who cannot even fulfil His own will, He creates perfect beings who turn around and rebel against Him and gets caught off guard requiring a "plan B."
You recognized this perfectly, they will say one thing about how wonderful and loving He is and in the very next breath they will say the exact opposite.
It is amazing, thank God for opening our eyes!
His Peace and Wisdom to you Cindy,
Joe
SixFour:
Oh, I want to add this:
Neither of these pastors speak about "hell." They would only give an "altar" call asking: "If you died right now, would you go to heaven?" Then: "Have you been baptized in the Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking in 'other' tongues?"
hillsbororiver:
--- Quote from: SixFour on August 04, 2007, 02:06:01 PM ---Hello Everyone...
Joe,
I can only say this for the two churches I was a part of before I really left Babylon: They were both "Word Of Faith" churches, influenced heavily by Fred Price and Oral Roberts. Both pastors (one being a close friend) were exemplary when it came to integrity and teaching practical things about family, marriages and relationships. Neither of these guys spoke of money as do a lot of pastors in their "circle." Nevertheless, I couldn't sit in one of their services comfortably now, even if I was in a "Lazy-Boy." They both would take scripture out of context like taking a piece of a puzzle, putting it on a table, and then saying "It's completed!" I would always scratch my head at some of their teachings, but then conclude: "He's the pastor...he must know what he's talking about."
James
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Hi James,
That is what they count on, the sheep blindly following their blind guides. I have seen blatent misrepresentations by the TV preachers and in the pulpit, these preachers count on the majority to consign the bible and it's scriptures to the back of the bus as they present the man made doctrines as divine.
His Peace to you,
Joe
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