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What Do The Denominations Have Right?
ciy:
Janice
Your verses made me curious so I checked out some other translations. The New Living tells it all and finishes up so clearly showing that God is in control and no free will.
30 Once, you Gentiles were rebels against God, but when the people of Israel rebelled against him, God was merciful to you instead. 31 Now they are the rebels, and God’s mercy has come to you so that they, too, will share[k] in God’s mercy. 32 For God has imprisoned everyone in disobedience so he could have mercy on everyone.
33 Oh, how great are God’s riches and wisdom and knowledge! How impossible it is for us to understand his decisions and his ways!
34 For who can know the Lord’s thoughts?
Who knows enough to give him advice?[l]
35 And who has given him so much
that he needs to pay it back?[m]
36 For everything comes from him and exists by his power and is intended for his glory. All glory to him forever! Amen.
Romans 11:30-36
CIY
gmik:
Oh I love that word "UNPERSUADABLENESS". That hits it spot on.
Romans 11 is awesome. He, GOD, is the one who does it! Period. How is this hidden :D?
I know I know, but still!!!! ;) :D
Great thread folks.
ciy:
One more from the Message. I love the way this translates the last few verses. Gives it all to God.
30 -32There was a time not so long ago when you were on the outs with God. But then the Jews slammed the door on him and things opened up for you. Now they are on the outs. But with the door held wide open for you, they have a way back in. In one way or another, God makes sure that we all experience what it means to be outside so that he can personally open the door and welcome us back in.
33 -36Have you ever come on anything quite like this extravagant generosity of God, this deep, deep wisdom? It's way over our heads. We'll never figure it out.
Is there anyone around who can explain God?
Anyone smart enough to tell him what to do?
Anyone who has done him such a huge favor
that God has to ask his advice?
Everything comes from him;
Everything happens through him;
Everything ends up in him.
Always glory! Always praise!
Yes. Yes. Yes.
Romans 11:30-36
I am through now, but those verses just really got to me.
CIY
LittleBear:
CIY,
That is a great translation. I'm going to go out and get me one of those.
It feels so intimate and personal.
Ursula
DuluthGA:
Here's a verse that also helps to edify what RJ/Ron said that "...they are following God's plan to a tee."
And CIY... it would be great if you could present this verse [or verse set] from The Message as well... thanks. I too am going to have to buy it. :)
1Pet 2: 7-8 To you then, who are believing, is the honor, yet to the unbelieving: "A Stone which is rejected by the builders, this came to be for the head of the corner," and a stumbling stone and a snare rock; who are stumbling also at the word, being stubborn, to which THEY WERE APPOINTED also. [CLNT]
Luv, Janice
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