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Redbird:
It seems to me, that some are so angry with the lies they were told and possibly believed, that they are letting this dark shadow hang over their love for the truth. May Love and Truth prevail ~ that is my prayer, because we have to learn to forgive, if we, ourselves want forgiveness.
Peace, Lisa
hillsbororiver:
Thank you for the kind words Shmeggly, I agree with the premise being made in this thread, we should all show some patience and longsuffering when legitimate questions are being asked. I believe that is how the Lord showed us to respond and if you pay close attention to Ray he has a remarkable ability to discern the misguided (sheep) from the antagonist (wolf).
Also we all should remember to not become easily offended by what may appear to be an abrupt statement when in fact it could be only a different style of communication. Patience gets the best results when all parties use it. ;)
It has been mentioned many times that with only this 2 dimensional form of communication (writing) versus seeing body language, hearing voice intonations and all that you can perceive in person, a witty off handed remark can come across as rude or without compassion. We should all be careful of the image we project in words and give our brethren the benefit of the doubt on both sides of this issue.
His Peace to you,
Joe
gmik:
"Nole, did you read Joe's post before he locked it?? He explained it. You can still go and re read the entire thread. It was getting too long and going off topic.
To all:
Just start a new thread.
If we all can't "live the walk" here amongst like believers then how are we gonna do it among the world?
Love one another, be patient and kind, give one another the benefit of the doubt, ask, skip that post, don't respond, pray,
there are lots of things to do instead of nursing hurt feelings or up and leaving. (this goes along w/ my other post I just did on the same thing started by Brett.)
Shmeggly:
Yes Joe, 2 dimensional writing makes it hard to discern intention etc....communication is mostly non verbal....
Well said Gena! I'm done.... :)
Harryfeat:
Hey Seminole,
Thank you for the post. You asked what to do. Shmeggly, Gena, Lisa and Joe and others have given you some excellent food for thought. I would also like to share my perspective here even though I might repeat what they have said. I hope this helps. I have already spoken in another thread about being tough where necessary. I'll confine my remarks here to perceived inappropriate behavior.
Perhaps I am oversensitive to bullies since I spent most of my young adult life in constant fear for my safety and sometimes my life. [If I ever get up the courage MG has displayed I might share my story publicly but not today] I tried to fight back at first verbally then with my fists but was soon overpowered and even more severely beaten. I learned very quickly that avoidance was the best way to survive. Well, you can't always avoid them and you end up taking a beating. You might get a punch or word in but that just makes them more aggressive. It is usually best to hope they run out of steam fast or someone comes to your rescue.
Bullies are the same everywhere. They have huge egos and tend to overcompensate for their own weaknesses. No matter what you say or do you are usually wrong in their eyes. Here on the forum, since they cannot beat the victim with their fists, their tactics tend to be false accusation, character maligning either direct or thinly veiled, or sometimes making it look like the victim doesn't follow Christ's teachings, doesn't agree with Ray, or has some evil agenda. There as sometimes an indication that they know what is in the victim's heart better than the victim does. [I tend to laugh a lot at those.] In most cases, they take what the victim has posted and in their minds add to it, warp it into some personal attack or an attack at their ideals and then blast off.
It doesn't happen the same way all the time and some are sneakier than others. If you ask a legitimate question and get slammed, then my advice is to proceed with caution and patience. Sometimes as Joe pointed out, with two-dimensional communication you can be misunderstood. [With my quirky way of communicating, that happens to me a lot and I expect to make a few clarifications.] Ignoring it doesn't always work but usually is best. The moderators do a great job here and if something gets out of hand it usually gets taken care of properly. Whatever happens, please don't take these things as personal affronts. Remember, if you are being bullied, you are not alone and if not you were probably just misunderstood.
My beliefs are similar to Lisa's and Sasscell's in that I think these bullies may believe the truth but they are still living in babylon. They are overreacting much like a smoker who has quit has to smokers around them. They wield a double-edged sword of self righteousness very wildly. I only hope that they don't cut themselves much less the rest of us. I can't help it but with my background, I pity them. I am sad that they cannot have peace within themselves and share it with us. I pray God's will sees them through this period in their lives to escape the worldliness that has entangled them. I pray the same for myself as well.
--- Quote ---If we all can't "live the walk" here amongst like believers then how are we gonna do it among the world?
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Amen Gena :)
be blessed
feat
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