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Parables - email to Ray
Pax Vobiscum:
--- Quote from: Pax Vobiscum on August 09, 2007, 11:03:17 AM ---Hasn't Ray referred to the entire Bible as a parable?
Does counting this story as a parable change its meaning or its teaching points?
Does it matter whether Jesus' teaching methods were "Based On Actual Events" or not? What if we were to discover that the Lazarus story was fictionalized to make its point or that the Prodigal Son characters were real? Would this change anything?
Peace
--- End quote ---
Let me try again....
Shakespeare mused that should we call a rose by another name, would it lose its scent?
My point is not about the validity of the teachings in Jesus' parables. My point is what does it matter whether we get his teachings derive from fictionalized stories or not? The lesson is the thing. Does it matter whether we call the Lazarus lesson a "parable" or not? I am pretty sure that the modern definition of "parable" requires that it be fiction. I am not sure what the 1st century definition is. At any rate, my point is that we should not fret whether Lazarus was an actual person rather focus on the teaching from that anecdote.
Peace
Kat:
Hi Pax,
Yes see what you're saying, that is a truth for sure, it is the message that is important, by whatever means He brings it to us.
mercy, peace, and love
Kat
hillsbororiver:
;D
Hold on to your chairs folks.....
I am in full agreement with Pax on this one! :o
It does not add or take away from the message of Christ whether a certain lesson refers to a literal or fictional event.
The bible is full of metaphors, similes, figures of speech, etc.
From Lake of Fire Part 1; http://bible-truths.com/lake1.html
BIBLICAL FIGURES OF SPEECH
Here are some of the fully substantiated figures of language used in Scripture. I borrowed many of these examples from an appendix in the back of The Concordant Literal New Testament.
We will begin with FIGURES OF LIKENESS which include:
similes (when something is like, or as something else, it is a simile rather than a metaphor)
metaphors (where one thing is said to actually be something else) as in, "all life is grass" I Pet. 1:24. Therefore, the subject of this paper IS a metaphor and CANNOT be literal: John says, "...the lake of fire, This IS the second death" (Rev. 20:14), and "...the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which IS the second death" (Rev. 21:8)
implications
parables (there are many, the shortest one being, "Physician, heal Thyself" Luke 4:23)
allegories (as in the two women standing for two covenants, Gal. 4:22-28)
visions (as in a sheet let down from heaven, Acts 10:11-16)
signs (as in the sign of Jonah the prophet, Matt. 12:39)
types (as in Adam corresponding with Christ, Rom. 5:12-21)
shadows (as in the law being a shadow of good things to come, Heb. 10:1)
examples (as in the tabernacle vessels being examples of what is in heaven , Heb. 9:23)
images (as Christ is the image of God, Col. 1:15)
impersonations or personifications (where things are spoken of as persons)
condescension's (as where God takes on human attributes)
diminutives (as in "little women, heaped with sins" II Tim. 3:6)
There are FIGURES OF ASSOCIATION which include:
association or metonymy's
appellations (as when a quality or office is used instead of a proper name, as in "Son of Mankind" instead of saying Jesus Christ)
compound associations (as "the word of the cross" I Cor. 1:18, which has to do with Christ’s shameful and agonizing death)
near associations (as in a phrase that is partly literal, "Then went out to Him Jerusalem [that is the people of Jerusalem]", Matt. 3:5)
retention's (this one is too complicated to explain, but I’ll give you an example, "the tablets of the heart" II Cor. 3:3)
circumlocutions or periphrasis (what is "circumlocution"? Well, it’s a descriptive phrase in place of a name in order to emphasize the association. Examples, "the product of the grapevine [though not named is, wine]" Matt. 26:29, "the city of David [though not named is, Bethlehem]" Luke 2:11,
enigmas, and symbols (where a known object or something else is used to typify something else, or even an intangible quality such as love, power, beauty, etc.)
Peace,
Joe
Pax Vobiscum:
I...am....post-less!
Peace
sasscell:
I am in agreement that the entire Bible is a parable, but CIY mentioned that the Bible says the Bible is a parable....I am not familiar with a particular scripture. Is this an inferrence (sp)? to Christ speaking to the multitudes only in parables?? Chapter and verse(s) please.
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