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Clean and Unclean Meat !!
Sue Creamer:
Hi All,
I have been unable to find anything in Ray's emails or articles about clean and unclean meats. Having
come out of a church that taught it was a sin to eat pork, sea food, etc...I would so like to have some
input into what is correct according to the scriptures.
Thanks!
Sue Ann
Kat:
Hi Sue Ann,
I was in WW 15 years, I know well their teaching to not eat unclean meats. This is man's effort to please God with the physical. This scripture shows it matters not what we eat.
Mat 15:11 it is not what goes into the mouth that defiles a person, but what comes out of the mouth; this defiles a person."
Mar 7:18 And he said to them, "Then are you also without understanding? Do you not see that whatever goes into a man from outside cannot defile him,
Mar 7:19 since it enters, not his heart but his stomach, and so passes on?" (Thus he declared all foods clean.) (RSV)
Here is an email, it does not mention unclean meats, but I would think unclean meats is just another physical thing man tries to do to serve God.
http://www.forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,1520.0.html ------
Dear Mildred:
"Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of a HOLY DAY, or of the new moon, or of the SABBATH days; which are a shadow of things to come, but the body [Gk: 'substance'--the REAL THING] is the Christ [or 'is the Christ's']" (Col. 2:16-17). See also Heb. 8:5-6 & Heb. 10:1.
We are not obligated under the New Covenant to "keep" any holy days.
God be with you,
Ray
Sue Creamer:
Hi Kat,
I believed this was the case, but questions keep lingering in my mind!!!! As I cannot reference a bible here at work and can't remember it on my own..I have to put things into my own words. Does not modern medicine today teach pork is unfit for human consumption? Where did that come from? I don't think any of us would eat a mouse or rat, but is there any reference in the scriptures that says it is not a good idea if we were so inclined, even though it is not a sin?? I guess what I am trying to say is what separates the "what is good for us food" and "that which is not good for us food"...!!!! I am so sorry if I am not making sense.
Thanks!
Sue Ann
jackson:
Hey Sue Ann,
My take on the "unclean meat" is that it is not really refering to any type of edible or consumable animal. This, in my estimation, is talking about false profits spreading lies and half-truths. Often their words sound very good, they'll even very often sprinkle in some Scripture to give their lies an authentic "taste". But the meat that they are selling is spoiled.
The verses Kat quoated speak the undeniable truth. If it is from God it is good. Nothing else really to say.
Oh and have you ever tried rat...I here it's quite good marinated in a little teriaki sauce ;D. Sorry about that , I couldn't resist ::)
Jackson
okjohnson:
Hi Sue Anne
I think the stumbling here is over old doctrines. I have trouble with the old doctrines quite often that need to be burned up too.
The New Covenant (Christ) replaces the Old Covenant (Law of Moses which was a shadow of Christ).
Here are a couple of verses that might help:
Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holy day, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body [casting the shadow] is of Christ (Col. 2:16-17)
Actually, Jesus changed (rewrote) the ten commandments.
The following verses is one example of this .
Matt. 5:21: You have heard that it was said by them of old time, thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:
Verse. 22: "But I say unto you, that whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother Racca (vain fellow) shall be in danger of hell fire."
You might want to read Matthew 5:19-48 to see all of the changes that Jesus made to the commandments.
It is Christ in you that matters.
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