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Who was Noah and what did he do?
ez2u:
Hebrew 7: 11 caught my eye recently and these thoughts have been formulation in my head for quite a few years, Its been like a little picture here and there over many years that the Holy Spirit has been unfolding to me and i thought maybe I could share it and see what other people might think. Maybe someone else has seen some of this. :D
Luk 17:20 And1161 when he was demanded1905 of5259 the3588 Pharisees,5330 when4219 the3588 kingdom932 of God2316 should come,2064 he answered611 them846 and2532 said,2036 The3588 kingdom932 of God2316 cometh2064 not3756 with3326 observation:3907
Luk 17:21 Neither3761 shall they say,2046 Lo2400 here!5602 or,2228 lo2400 there!1563 for,1063 behold,2400 the3588 kingdom932 of God2316 is2076 within1787 you.5216
luke 17:27 They did eat,2068 they drank,4095 they married wives,1060 they were given in marriage,1547 until891 the(3739) day2250 that Noah3575 entered1525 into1519 the3588 ark,2787 and2532 the3588 flood2627 came,2064 and2532 destroyed622 them all.537
Gen6:5 And GOD3068 saw7200 that3588 the wickedness7451 of man120 was great7227 in the earth,776 and that every3605 imagination3336 of the thoughts4284 of his heart3820 was only7535 evil7451 continually.3605, 3117
Gen 6:6 And it repented5162 the LORD3068 that3588 he had made6213 (853) man120 on the earth,776 and it grieved6087 him at413 his heart.3820
Gen 6:7 And the LORD3068 said,559 I will destroy4229 (853) man120 whom834 I have created1254 from4480, 5921 the face6440 of the earth;127 both man,4480, 120 and5704 beast,929 and5704 the creeping thing,7431 and5704 the fowls5775 of the air;8064 for3588 it repenteth5162 me that3588 I have made6213 them.
Gen 6:8 But Noah5146 found4672 grace2580 in the eyes5869 of the LORD.3068
Gen 6:9 These428 are the generations8435 of Noah:5146 Noah5146 was1961 a just6662 man376 and perfect8549 in his generations,1755 and Noah5146 walked1980 with854 God.430
perfect
From H8552; entire (literally, figuratively or morally); also (as noun) integrity, truth: - without blemish, complete, full, perfect, sincerely (-ity), sound, without spot, undefiled, upright (-ly), whole.
Heb 11:7 By faith4102 Noah,3575 being warned of God5537 of4012 things not seen as yet,3369, 991 moved with fear,2125 prepared2680 an ark2787 to the saving1519, 4991 of his848 house;3624 by1223 the which3739 he condemned2632 the3588 world,2889 and2532 became1096 heir2818 of the3588 righteousness1343 which is by2596 faith.4102
condemned
G2632
κατακρίνω
katakrinō
kat-ak-ree'-no
From G2596 and G2919; to judge against, that is, sentence: - condemn, damn.
Noah's act of preparing the ark condemn the world and he became heir of the righteousness which is by faith? Is this what I am reading? then in Gen 6:9 how the bible is describing Noah, without blemish,complete,full, perfect. Who was this man?
For his generation: well I was looking at his generation and it was full of evil so I posted what the Bilble said about it because to live in that time and be righteous Noah must of gone through a lot ,flesh desires flesh. God's anointing was surely on Noah. For Jesus in the new testamont to say what he said and read to whom He said it to: the pharisees, men of learning that knew the scriptures. These men were educatied. Jesus also spoke to his discplines in more detail. I would like for you to take note as he is talking to the Pharisees and Jesus says this is not by observation and the kindom of God is with in you all this right in these scriptures together.LUke 17: 20-21.
Here is where Jesus is talking to His disibles
Mat 24:36 But1161 of4012 that1565 day2250 and2532 hour5610 knoweth1492 no3762 man, no, not3761 the3588 angels32 of heaven,3772 but1508 my3450 Father3962 only.3441
Mat 24:37 But1161 as5618 the3588 days2250 of Noah3575 were, so3779 shall also2532 the3588 coming3952 of the3588 Son5207 of man444 be.2071
Mat 24:38 For1063 as5618 in1722 the3588 days2250 that3588 were before4253 the3588 flood2627 they were2258 eating5176 and2532 drinking,4095 marrying1060 and2532 giving in marriage,1547 until891 the day2250 that3739 Noah3575 entered1525 into1519 the3588 ark,2787
Mat 24:39 And2532 knew1097 not3756 until2193 the3588 flood2627 came,2064 and2532 took them all away;142, 537 so3779 shall also2532 the3588 coming3952 of the3588 Son5207 of man444 be.2071
Mat 24:40 Then5119 shall two1417 be2071 in1722 the3588 field;68 the3588 one1520 shall be taken,3880 and2532 the3588 other1520 left.863
Mat 24:41 Two1417 women shall be grinding229 at1722 the3588 mill;3459 the one3391 shall be taken,3880 and2532 the other3391 left.863
Mat 24:42 Watch1127 therefore:3767 for3754 ye know1492 not3756 what4169 hour5610 your5216 Lord2962 doth come.2064
Mat 24:43 But1161 know1097 this,1565 that3754 if1487 the3588 goodman of the house3617 had known1492 in what4169 watch5438 the3588 thief2812 would come,2064 he would have watched,1127, 302 and2532 would not3756 have suffered1439, 302 his848 house3614 to be broken up.1358
Mat 24:44 Therefore1223, 5124 be1096 ye5210 also2532 ready:2092 for3754 in such3739 an hour5610 as ye think1380 not3756 the3588 Son5207 of man444 cometh.2064
Mat 24:45 Who5101 then686 is2076 a faithful4103 and2532 wise5429 servant,1401 whom3739 his846 lord2962 hath made ruler2525 over1909 his848 household,2322 to give1325 them846 meat5160 in1722 due season?2540
Mat 24:46 Blessed3107 is that1565 servant,1401 whom3739 his846 lord2962 when he cometh2064 shall find2147 so3779 doing.4160
Mat 24:47 Verily281 I say3004 unto you,5213 That3754 he shall make him ruler2525, 846 over1909 all3956 his848 goods.5224
Mat 24:48 But1161 and if1437 that1565 evil2556 servant1401 shall say2036 in1722 his848 heart,2588 My3450 lord2962 delayeth5549 his coming;2064
Mat 24:49 And2532 shall begin756 to smite5180 his fellow servants,4889 and1161 to eat2068 and2532 drink4095 with3326 the3588 drunken;3184
Mat 24:50 The3588 lord2962 of that1565 servant1401 shall come2240 in1722 a day2250 when3739 he looketh4328 not3756 for him, and2532 in1722 an hour5610 that3739 he is not3756 aware1097 of,
Mat 24:51 And2532 shall cut him asunder,1371, 846 and2532 appoint5087 him his846 portion3313 with3326 the3588 hypocrites:5273 there1563 shall be2071 weeping2805 and2532 gnashing1030 of teeth.3599
One of the thoughts I think I am seeing here is in Hebrew 11:7 prepare an ark by which he ( this is Noah ) condemn the world. Now Jesus ties in this act to the end of this age are we going to be the Noah and by our righteious acts condemn the world and bring the coming of the Lord and the end of this age? There is alot of study here which also leds to David when he numbered the people and was judged by God ,which I will explain later , when David was on the thresing floor. I have a full day ahead of me and must go to work. please if anyone can exbound on any of this or what is needed, please post a reply. I pray I was clear enough sometimes my mind expands and I don't come across as clear as I should, pleasel et me know. Studing Noah through out the old and new testmont is very revealing Peggy
ciy:
Noah is simply a shadow of Christ and his first fruits (disciples, chosen, elect) just as Moses, Abraham, Joseph, David, etc were shadows of the Christ and those chosen of God to keep the faith and to hold his truths against the ways of the world, the multitudes who will not be saved in the present age but will be judged in the age to come.
It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of a loving God. You must stand strong against the wisdom of the world unto the end (in Noah's case the flood) in order to be saved and go into the next age with the few chosen.
It is those that do the Lord's commandments and not just know them like actually building an ark while the wisdom of the world laughs at you and persecutes you for your unworldly doings.
CIY
rocky:
I love this part about the ark
Gen 6:14 Make thee an ark of gopher wood; rooms shalt thou make in the ark, and shalt pitch it within and without with pitch.
pitch:
כּפר
kâphar
kaw-far'
A primitive root; to cover (specifically with bitumen); figuratively to expiate or condone, to placate or cancel: - appease, make (an) atonement, cleanse, disannul, forgive, be merciful, pacify, pardon, to pitch, purge (away), put off, (make) reconcile (-liation).
those in the ark, protected from the wrath outside by pitch, "covering, atonement".
insanezenmistress:
Now Jesus ties in this act to the end of this age are we going to be the Noah and by our righteious acts condemn the world and bring the coming of the Lord and the end of this age?
o gawsh......i was thinking this earlier.
not nessacarilly the words but.......when it started to become clear to me that god's will is in charge, and that he reveals himself to his own and a few other groovy things concerning how the "second comming" will be......
(i read many of rays emails and when ray mentioned another teacher he admired i went off to check out THAT GUY........and he spoke of Christ's comming.........)
anyway i was in a very rapturious prayer/meditaiton and felt i was really praying in tune with god , to god and it was like i was in his time not mine and as if by trusting in His spirit within me ......like my prayers and the revelation was all happening...........something like id imagine if Noah's building the ark in the physical where the physical steps God used to bring on the rain............
but then later as the whole woohooness of the praying in the spirit faded i was like..but god.......this is a LARGE world and many dont even want you......never mind the chruch, at least the church craves god alittle but the reconciliation of teh WHOLE world......the Comming with your saints and priest and ruleing the REST of the world........but but but ...
the Spirit assured me that my belief or doubt does not stop the lord purpose. He is not bound by my doing. I am sure he was not bound by Noah's doing either.
I'd like to wager that as noah built that ark, each nail and each cut was to him a prayer and a confirmation of the Judgement of the lord happening.
and maybe if i/we keep praying it wont belong before we can ASK NOAH OURSELVES...........lol......
for what it's worth.........its my museing.
Justine
rocky:
I see the time of building the ark, as the time in the wilderness. The time of working out your salvation with fear and trembling. A similtude of the "first fruits". "Ishmael and Isaac" being side by side, coexisting together.
I see the flood wrath of God, the casting out of "Ishmael", and the "Isaacs" not being hurt of the flood. And the reward, heir of the land, "Promised land" (spiritual, new covenant)
Noah lived by faith, he believed that God would be faithful to his promises. He endured persecution from the world. Laughter, ridicule etc. He remained faithful.
Just like the Israelites in the wilderness, most did not remain faithful, and never entered the promise land. Their result was destruction. But Joshua (representative of Christ and those awaiting his coming, first fruits), entered the promised land.
The Noah also story reminds me of I Corinthians 10
1Co 10:1 For I would have you remember, brethren, how our forefathers were all of them sheltered by the cloud, and all got safely through the Red Sea.
1Co 10:2 All were baptized in the cloud and in the sea to be followers of Moses.
1Co 10:3 All ate the same spiritual food,
1Co 10:4 and all drank the same spiritual drink; for they long drank the water that flowed from the spiritual rock that went with them--and that rock was the Christ.
1Co 10:5 But with most of them God was not well pleased; for they were laid low in the Desert.
1Co 10:6 And in this they became a warning to us, to teach us not to be eager, as they were eager, in pursuit of what is evil.
1Co 10:7 And you must not be worshippers of idols, as some of them were. For it is written, "THE PEOPLE SAT DOWN TO EAT AND DRINK, AND STOOD UP TO DANCE."
1Co 10:8 Nor may we be fornicators, like some of them who committed fornication and on a single day 23,000 of them fell dead.
1Co 10:9 And do not let us test the Lord too far, as some of them tested Him and were destroyed by the serpents.
1Co 10:10 And do not be discontented, as some of them were, and they were destroyed by the Destroyer
1Co 10:11 All this kept happening to them with a figurative meaning; but it was put on record by way of admonition to us upon whom the ends of the Ages have come.
1Co 10:12 So then let him who thinks he is standing securely beware of falling.
Noah remained faithful, his reward was the NEW WORLD.
The unfaithful were destroyed in the flood (wrath of God)
Gal 4:22 For it is written that Abraham had two sons, one by the slave-girl and one by the free woman.
Gal 4:23 But we see that the child of the slave-girl was born in the common course of nature; but the child of the free woman in fulfilment of the promise.
Gal 4:24 All this is allegorical; for the women represent two Covenants. One has its origin on Mount Sinai, and bears children destined for slavery.
Gal 4:25 This is Hagar; for the name Hagar stands for Mount Sinai in Arabia, and corresponds to the present Jerusalem, which is in bondage together with her children.
Gal 4:26 But the Jerusalem which is above is free, and *she* is *our* mother.
Gal 4:27 For it is written, "REJOICE, THOU BARREN WOMAN THAT BEAREST NOT, BREAK FORTH INTO A JOYFUL CRY, THOU THAT DOST NOT TRAVAIL WITH CHILD. FOR THE DESOLATE WOMAN HAS MANY CHILDREN--MORE INDEED THAN SHE WHO HAS THE HUSBAND."
Gal 4:28 But you, brethren, like Isaac, are children born in fulfilment of a promise.
Gal 4:29 Yet just as, at that time, the child born in the common course of nature persecuted the one whose birth was due to the power of the Spirit, so it is now.
Gal 4:30 But what says the Scripture? "SEND AWAY THE SLAVE-GIRL AND HER SON, FOR NEVER SHALL THE SLAVE-GIRL'S SON SHARE THE INHERITANCE WITH THE SON OF THE FREE WOMAN."
Gal 4:31 Therefore, brethren, since we are not the children of a slave-girl, but of the free woman--
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