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Resurrection of the body
Evan600:
I realize that the "Apostle's Creed" is off. There is no such thing as a physical, body resurrection. In other words; the phrase "resurrection of the body" is unscriptural.
When Jesus rose from the dead, and His body was not in the tomb, what do you suppose happened to it?
Another question that I have, actually I'm wondering what you guys think. When Jesus was showing Thomas His hands, and side, was this a spiritual body? A completely different body altogether, that represented His physical self?
thanks for your input,
Jason
DuluthGA:
Hi Jason,
I found the answers to your inquiries from Ray in the emails section. I used the SEARCH box and entered "jesus" "body." Cool that it can search for more than one word, just found that out. Anyway, here they are:
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,3707.0.html
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,3213.0.html
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,2942.0.html
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,1199.0.html
These should cover both of your questions.
Have a great night! :)
Janice
gmik:
Thanks for the links Janice!!
YellowStone:
Hi All,
I believe a lot of the confusion of what happened to Christ's physical body stems from the following Scripture.
Luk 24:37 But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit.
Luk 24:38 And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts?
Luk 24:39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
Luk 24:40 And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them [his] hands and [his] feet.
Luk 24:41 And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat?
Luk 24:42 And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb.
Luk 24:43 And he took [it], and did eat before them.
What happened to the body? In my mind it was resurrected as promised. Yet is it strange or unusual that Christ was able to appear in different human forms, following the resurrection? Was he not formed in the likeness of man during his time as a human?
Phl 2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
Phl 2:8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
If he was able as a Spirit to take on the form of a human in His preexisting life as a Spirit; is it not possible that being raised as a Spirit once again following the resurrection that He could take on the same form as He 'was'?
So what happened to the body of Christ during its time in the tomb? In my mind it vanished, the form of which was no longer needed, it was like it never existed. That Christ was a Spirit to begin with, and was able to take on any form He wanted following the resurrection, I believe is very important. For Christ himself stated in Luk 24:39: Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
Taken verbatim, Christ admits that in the form He took at that time, that He was NOT a spirit; yet this does NOT suggest that as a Spirit, he was unable to become once more as a man. Although He does not specifically state blood in the following: or a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have?
Would it be possible for those who witnessed the event to see the blood? Well, yes because Christ would have been very very pale had there been no blood in his body. I am of course not suggesting that I am right on this, but just because Christ didn't say that the body in which he formed did NOT have blood, then are we to assume that it didn't. He never said water either, but a very large percentage of the human body is comprised of water; are we to assume that all he had was flesh and bones, not have water or even muscle? :) Assuming can be dangerous :)
Of course all of the above is assumed on the basis of my understanding and I write it not as enlightened truth but as musings, for I know very well that I can only see what I have been given to see. So please no flames. :)
Comments or corrections very welcome
With Love in Christ our Lamb,
Darren
Beloved:
It is hard to comprehend a spiritual body even with all of the hollywood movie effects but my mind boggles when I contemplate these scriptures
(Col 1:16 CLV) for in Him is all created, that in the heavens and that on the earth, the visible and the invisible, whether thrones, or lordships, or sovereignties, or authorities, all is created through Him and for Him,
(Col 1:17 CLV) and He is before all, and [u]all has its cohesion in Him[/u]."
(Col 1:18 CLV) And He is the Head of the body, the ecclesia, Who is Sovereign, Firstborn from among the dead, that in all He may be becoming first,
With this entire material universe ...God can certainly gather a few atomic particles and appear to the apostles.
The spiritual is like the linen and the world is like the wool. You do not mix these.. they are incompatible.
Like Christ I think the chosen will take off the linen and put on wool when interacting that is ruling (teaching) and reigning (serving) the many and ungodly.
Whether you think about it , right now as you live and breath....you are leaving a long trail of atoms in space, you move around, the planet itself spins and it also moves through the universe. You are being recycled as you sit and read this. When you die it just continues. A big dust ball ...getting smaller. ;D
Beloved
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