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eutychus:

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--- Quote from: lilitalienboi16 ---He then asked me

"If someone broke into your house and attacked your family would you not defend them?"

I told HIm "i would Pray for the guidence of what to do."

He laughed at me, along with other people in the room

He then said "You would pray?"

I said "yes i would".

He also asked me what if i saw a "rigtheous man" being killed would i not kill to save His life?

I told Him "i don't believe it right to kill another person NO MATTER WHAT."

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If we are not to defend ourselves, can someone please explain to me what Jesus meant when He said, "He that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one" (Luke 22:36b)? What did He mean for them to do with that sword? What other use is there? To me, it seems that Jesus wanted His disciples to be able to protect themselves, as He said this shortly before the betrayal.

On E-sword, there no reference numeral for "sword," but for buy "one," it says,

"machaira
makh'-ahee-rah
Probably feminine of a presumed derivative of G3163; a knife, that is, dirk; figuratively war, judicial punishment: - sword"

Sandy
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 one who would not protect his family is an infidel.

shibboleth:
Bless those of you who have tried to show the Matt Slicks of the world the truth in the Bible. Everytime I have tried to talk to these people, they will only go so far. As soon as I mention I am a universalist or tell them about Rays site, I never hear from them again.

I used to be a reformed Presbyterian. These people, as well as all church people, have no trouble believing in square circles. Their God is sovereign, except when it comes to His desires, will and purpose, then man is in control. They won't say that, but their theology points to no other direction. If you talk to them for any amount of time, they really do believe man is in control. They mix truth with lies and come up with heresy.

SandyFla:

--- Quote from: eutychus ---one who would not protect his family is an infidel.
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Right. You don't have to kill someone, but I don't believe it's wrong to physically stop them if you can ... you know, like shooting them in the leg.

SandyFla:

--- Quote from: shibboleth ---Their God is sovereign, except when it comes to His desires, will and purpose, then man is in control. They won't say that, but their theology points to no other direction. If you talk to them for any amount of time, they really do believe man is in control. They mix truth with lies and come up with heresy.
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Exactly. I once had a "discussion" with someone on a Yahoo! group. After showing her that God had a plan to actually save the world, she had the nerve to claim that God planned to fail!!!

I told her that if a human being came up with a plan, and then planned for it to fail, we would consider that person a complete idiot, and how dare she put God in that category! She then accused ME of going too far! She also said that I was the heretic. So sad ... so very, very sad ...

Becky:
that reminds me of "Days of our lives"!!!

I used to religiously watch in highschool.

It was hillarious the way these bad people carried on in thier lives... plotting to kill, seduce, take someone's identity, etc. but when old gramma lady was sick...but did they all pack into the church to light a candle and pray!

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