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nightmare sasuke:
--- Quote from: Origen II ---You sparred with Matt, Nightmare?
I'm impressed. I've never had the opportunity...nor have I ever tried.
--- End quote ---
No. We didn't spar. He was too busy with Taheton. However, I did interject and give him some food for thought, as you probably saw from what I posted. He probably was not very hungry though or did not like the taste of the meat I was giving him ;D
SOTW:
I used to Spar with him a lot before it was solidily revealed in my heart that Jesus saved all mankind. He (matt) still (from what I hear) regulars a room in Palchat, in which I used to host the only Universal Reconciliation chat room. Matt is the Calvinist who doesn't even know what Calvin believes and even when I didn't believe in Universal Reconciliation, the grace he taught was most certainly not what grace absolutely is. He is saved like the rest of us.
lilitalienboi16:
I got EXPELLED out of Matt slicks synogauge (Banned from Carm Online Chat room) for using scripture that He couldn't refute. He proceeded to call me a "uniee" whatever that is, and said stuff such as "Blah blah blah" against scripture in His responce. So your not alone sasuka. He cannot stand the truth. Truly sad, specialy for all those who so highly looked up to Him. Which were numerous in the room.
Oh well.
nightmare sasuke:
--- Quote from: lilitalienboi16 ---I got EXPELLED out of Matt slicks synogauge (Banned from Carm Online Chat room) for using scripture that He couldn't refute. He proceeded to call me a "uniee" whatever that is, and said stuff such as "Blah blah blah" against scripture in His responce. So your not alone sasuka. He cannot stand the truth. Truly sad, specialy for all those who so highly looked up to Him. Which were numerous in the room.
Oh well.
--- End quote ---
Psh, I got banned from that chat room twice. I will probably be banned from it for good now, and for the stupidest reason—giving my AIM address out casually! What Scripture did you show him that he couldn't refute? Did you save the conversation? If so, post it.
lilitalienboi16:
I did not save the conversation, i don't know how, i couldn't even copy and paste things in that "Java" based room.
However the conversation started with someone saying they were in the Airforce.
I said cool, but i would never do that.
I went on to say that if i was drafted for a war against Iran or some other issue i would claim that it is against my religion to kill.
Matt proceeded to ask me why i believe that, He proceeded to quote something Jesus told To His disciples which i believe was a parable. Something about Jesus asking His disciples if He sent them out with bags and something else and was it not sufficient? THen Jesus proceeds to say then let a man trade this/ sell the [item] for a sword.
THen i told Him the verse where Jesus told His disciples along the line of "Those who live by the sword shall die by the sword."
I also told Him i don't believe that verse that He quoted was teaching people to go buy swords and kill people, but perhaps a deeper spiritual meaning.
He got bitter, started saying "what is wrong with all these people lately." I present Him more scripture that delt with Gods Word being a SWORD , and that Jesus words were SPIRIT and LIFE.
For example:
"And take the helmet of salvation, and the SWORD of the SPIRIT which IS the WORD of God" ( Eph. 6:17).
"For the WORD of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two edged SWORD, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit…" (Heb. 4:12).
He proceeded with, "Blah blah blah".
He then asked me
"If someone broke into your house and attacked your family would you not defend them?"
I told HIm "i would Pray for the guidence of what to do."
He laughed at me, along with other people in the room
He then said "You would pray?"
I said "yes i would".
He also asked me what if i saw a "rigtheous man" being killed would i not kill to save His life?
I told Him "i don't believe it right to kill another person NO MATTER WHAT."
Again they proceeded to laugh at me for this, Matt and a few others this time.
Then Matt asked me what church i attended.
I replied "None, i am apart of the body of Christ."
THen i was banned shortly after.
I was thinking in my head all the while through this that if such a situation arised with a family member or loved one that, "God is in complete controle of everything and so if this is happening there is a reason and that i should trust in Him and no matter the outcome it will be His Will." So in essance all i would be able to do would be to pray.
I also thought of Jesus when He was being humiliated and tortued how He never used force, always turned the other cheek (LOVE YORU ENEMIES). Even the situation i mentioned earlier in which i believe the disciple Peter (Not sure if its exactly peter or not one of the disciples) defended Jesus when He was being handed over to the soldiers by cutting of the slaves ear, and Jesus told Him not too. Was not peter defending a "loved one" as i was thinking of it. Was not Jesus part of Peters family? Yet Jesus told the disciple that what He did was wrong.
P.S. OFfcourse these are not word for word exact quotes of what was said but pretty darn close to it.
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