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Am I called but not necessarily chosen?
Deborah-Leigh:
Ciao javajoe
This I believe this excerpt can help. From Ray Praying by Gods Rules
This Scripture will blow you away if you have never before seen it properly translated. Here it is first in the King James Version:
"For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man sees, why does he yet hope for? But if we hope for that we see not then do we with patience wait for it. Likewise the Spirit also helps our infirmities, for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself makes intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered" (Rom. 8:24-26).
Paul makes a connection between "hope and prayer." Hope is something we expect, but do not as yet experience. All of Christendom has this subject wrong when they claim that they are already in this life "saved" in the past tense. Paul tells us that we are "saved by hope," but if it is already a reality, then there is no need to still be hoping for it.
http://bible-truths.com/praying.htm
Peace to you
Arcturus :)
javajoe:
Thanks for all those responses, it has truly helped me and I know that I have found true fellowship with you all. It is especially encouraging that others have the same struggles and questions.
Ciao :)
dawnnnny:
Arcturus, thank you for your posting. I just listened to Ray's audio on being saved by grace, but he didn't say anything about this other verse using the word "hope" (or if he did, I missed it) -- He was using the Ephesians verses. This is wonderful and lifted me up this day!
Diana, loved The Message verses too, I need to pick up one of those! Thank you too m'am :)
Much love,
Dawn
musicman:
I will now answer your question.
Yes!!!!
gmik:
To quote Ray in LOF pt 12 that Diana used on her beautiful Sea of Gallilee thread:
...there is also "safety, shelter, and covering" in Gods' Divine Pond of Spiritual purifying fire..........
Yes, I want to run the race to win it..I love this life that God has for us and His plan ....I love reading scripture and wanting to do my best as God wills ...BUT.....IF I am in or not doesn't occupy a lot of my time or thoughts.Either I will be w/ Him helping others or the elect will be helping me and...I just zero in on the shelter of purifying Love and then in the 'ALL IN ALL' and its all good!!!
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