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The Price You Pay for Truth
zander:
That was quite a poignant post Beth! I know there are those in similar positions. Ive also thought that there is a price tgo pay. i still sin massively even though i am at peace with "the truth". Recently been having sex with a beautiful girl and im unmarried. Had a row with my mother, i was out of order..and if i was blinded at the truth at least i could claim ignorance, but as i know, it makes it harder.
This is a bit cheesy, but i will always remember a line from the recent Spiderman film:
"With great power comes great responsibility"
I have acknowledged that with knowledge of the truth this can be modified to "with great Knowledge (the truth) comes great responsibility.
We now have responsibilities - spiritual responsibilities to do whats right.
Good luck
gmik:
Hi Zander, good to hear from you. Been awhile.
We can know what the right thing to do is, but w/o God doing the work in us, we aren't going to really change. I know that from dieting!! Youth know it bcz sex is such a power in their lives.
Sacrifice isn't easy, but obedience is better than sacrifice. But we can't even obey w/o Him!
I think there is a tantalizing temptation here to just say "well, I guess I will just be in the 2nd....the pond of purification doesn't sound that bad!"
Beth;, I didn't leave church for awhile after I found the truth out from Ray's site. But eventually, I told my husband, I just can't go anymore...He was listening to me preach all the time and was agreeing and finally he had had enough too. But that is just my story...doesn't have to be yours. Are you studying like a Berean??? You do get fellowship here at the forum. As Arc says, be the best wife you can be. Listen to the Lord, ifyou can't hear him then learn to listen. Hard but needful if you want direction. You have had a lot of advice on this thread. Re read, pray about it, and TRUST the Lord. It IS His Will either way.
ciy:
Beth
Here are some scriptures to meditate on.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.
38 And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.
39 He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.
1John 2:15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
17 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.
Meditate for however long it takes. God is in control and He will guide your steps. Rest in the knowledge that God will cause you to do exactly what He wills you to do. Keep filling up with Him (the Word), seek Him daily, and rest in the knowledge of the truth.
I pray that you will be strong and courageous.
CIY
Robin:
It took me a year to come out of the church.
I heard the truth and believed it, but it's like I didn't see it yet. I spent that year trying to get the pastor and members to hear the truth that I heard. No one could hear it. They treated me like I lost my way. The pastor was disappointed in me saying of everyone in the church he had the most hope for me. He told me my beliefs would only lead me to despair. One day my eyes were opened and I couldn't go back. That was the day that God gave me the command that I couldn't go back. He used the same verse that Ray uses. God was patient with me using that year to teach me more. He gave me time to get my feet on solid ground. It's not easy going out alone and it's not easy when everyone is telling you there is something wrong with you. I felt a little crazy myself for awhile. I couldn't understand why I knew this truth and all those important people didn't. It made me think there was a flaw in my thinking.
The truth keeps building on itself and everything I learned fit with what I already learned. God will lead you where he wants you to go and he'll give you the desire and the faith to obey him.
GregR:
James 5:19-20
Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him;
Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.
Pray for God to give you an opportunity to share your beliefs. If God wants you to tell someone he will allow it. It's his planet, we need to ask permission in prayer sometimes.
I told my pastor, whom I love as a brother, that I don't agree with his teachings on tithes and offerings. Straight after he just taught on it.
The Lord spoke to me during the sermon, and no-one went near him after his sermon, so I just went with it. You have to just do it. Instead of sneaking around, just tell your pastor what you believe. See if he's humble enough to receive it.
The church I go to "prides" itself on its' theology and knowledge, even with it's glaring flaws. I can't believe how they can be so blinded to it. When I used to read scripture, most of it didn't make sense to me, because it was so out of context. If it doesn't make sense, we're not reading it right.
It's so frustrating, spending the day with people, going out with them and watching them witness to people from other churches, knowing that they are wrong as well. Try getting a word in like," I was wondering what your church teaches about tithing...". It's pointless, because your own brethren will turn on you like rabid wolves. WE'VE GOT THE TRUTH HERE! (i.e. not like all the other churches blah blah blah)
The problem is, they aren't willing to go outside the safety zone of the church system they're in. Even though things don't make sense to them either, they just "trust in the Lord".
I'm giving them time, I've told the pastor. It took me 3 months to be confident that I've got the tithing thing right. They need time as well. To share my experience, I told my pastor that I didn't agree with him on tithing, that it is from the old covenant. He had the bible open on the pulpit at Malachi (big surprise). He actually said that it "is not the old covenant". I was speechless. This is the guy that is supposed to "labour in the word".
The other thing that really gets me is that the church is full of people that have done bible school, a 3 year course on the bible. Yet, they don't question the tithes and offerings thing for a moment. Go figure.
It's like the above post, great worship, a lot of truth and zeal, just some poison mixed in.
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