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brandon h:
I don't know if anybody has checked out this site yet, but if you google bible truths you'll find it down the list of websites. It seems to have been created by an atheist woman. She truly has a dislike for the church and christians, but the funny thing is......She has points. All of her articles seem to center around why atheism is more realistic than the christian God. Now she obviously lacks spiritaul understanding, but she points out the obvious contradictions in the church.Like how christians say God is all-loving, but will eternally torture most of mankind. Or how a perfect God made man..yet man messed up His plans by sinning. There's other things, but again, she is decoding the bible with a carnal mind.

But it pains me when I see that people can support their atheism by exposing the false god taught in the church. I'm (carefully) considering posting a topic on their message board about some of the truths of God, but this lady's hatred for christians seems pretty passionate, so it would have to be totally of the spirit. The fact that she dedicted hours upon hours to make this website tells me she may have even been burned in the past. If you get a chance, pray for this group.

God Bless

DuluthGA:
Hi Brandon,  :)  Thanks for post!

Of course I will pray for the author(s) of this site to turn them around if it His will... and I'm sure (only) to the blinded eye do they have some "good points."  Not only do the atheists have "good points" but certainly scholarly theologians have "good points" as well.  Ha ha, wink wink.  :D 

What delighted me this evening was Ray's recent audio which is related:  http://bible-truths.com/audio/09-02-07%20Part%201.mp3, "Does All Mean All?"

I'm going to paraphrase a small portion in a very sketchy manner.  The audio is great, and I hope Sonofone reads this or listens to it as it answers some of his questions from earlier this evening:

Why doesn't the Greek word for 'all' [pas] mean ALL, absolutely, completely, ALL of the time, all inclusive, every, without exception?  If so it would be much easier to very plainly point to the scriptures that declare that God will save all His creation.  But sometimes in the Greek, 'all' means only 'just as many as' or some.  So you really cannot securely base this proclamation on the verses such as 1Tim 2:4 that contain the word 'all'... "Who will have ALL men to be saved"....  even though we know from context that it is so.... because the theologians [and my insertion, atheists who twist the words of God] are technically right about the word 'all' meaning both only some and all.

So how to "take them on" when they by the hundreds of thousands have been studying these things for two thousand years?  Ray provides lots of alternatives.  But further on this 'all' matter... Ray goes on...

To say that these blinded souls acknowledge that in other verses 'all' means 'all' when they want it to BUT NEVER when it comes to salvation... no, because they not only despise the Word of God but these people are vengeful and hurtful and they want certain people to go to hell.

Why did God do it this way?  Why, to make it easier and more plain, didn't God give one very strong word for the concept of a complete 'all'?  Then they wouldn't have an excuse to blaspheme God and say He's not going to save everyone and torture them forever in hell.  But why didn't God provide such a word?

"Because if He did... how would Satan deceive the whole world? [Rev 12:9]  How would these theologians be deceived if there were no room for deception?"

Ray cites:

Isa 28: 10, 13    For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:
v. 13   But the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.

Otherwise "they" wouldn't fall and be broken and snared and taken (captive)... in their own demented minds....

"But if you have a heart that doesn't think the rest of humanity is as good as you then there's room to pervert the scriptures, pervert one's mind and be easily deceived.... THAT'S WHY THERE ARE LOOPHOLES IN THE SCRIPTURES."

"That's the way the word of God is."

Ka-Pow! :D
Janice

insanezenmistress:
hey i read that sight. Shortly after my 'reconversion' It threw me for a loop. i spent weeks megga peeved at god for being what the author saw him as........but then when people would try useing such arguments on me i always felt like .........but that is not god as I KNOW him.

 if you want to make a comment, expect her tribulation. They are obsessed with argument by outrage. One such person aske dme once if god willed a little 10 year old to get raped. I could only tell her no he gave us rules of behaviour so that we WOULD not rape but we chose to go agianst that............but she kept at me and in the end all i could say was YES GOD DID!........GOD WILLED IT, god also suffered it with her and will ADVENTAULLY heal both her and her perprotrator...........

 But that arguement did not fare very well. I went away confused and she kept her anger to Jehova.  I suggest not useing the natural man cannot understand spiritaul things arguement... lol

Justine
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SandyFla:
I just checked out their forum.

Years ago, before I found Ray's site, that stuff would've made my blood boil, and I'd be in there arguing passionately--probably to the point of being banned.

Today I have no desire to post anything there. I feel no anger at all toward them. Only pity.

Sandy

YellowRose:
Wow, I decided to take a look at that website.  They have so much rage; it's very sobering for me to be a witness to it.  I feel very sad, on the one hand, that they so completely misunderstand God and the truths about Him.  On the other hand, I feel very humbled to know that God so loves those people that He sent His Only Son to reconcile them to Him.  I am grateful to know that because of His love, one day they will confess, believe, and understand that Jesus is Lord.  I am so grateful to God for that hope, for their sake. 

Good night, everyone.

In His Service,

Cathy

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