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Physical Universe!
indianabob:
9/13/07
Interesting speculation, Sky Dreamer,
Also, if the Universe is endless, I suppose it could expand forever.
How about going the other way for a minute.
All of these plans for multiplying the souls and planets in the future.
When did God begin all of this? (I know, He lives outside of time)
How far back does the plan and the laying of the foundation go?
What was God doing before HE thought of all these wonderful ideas?
Inquiring minds want to know.
Please write when you have something more definitive. Ha ha.
Bob
YellowStone:
Hi everyone,
I love this subject, because it in itself prooves beyond any doubt that there must be a God. Let us just assume that the universe in which we live has an end, perhaps a brick wall. What's on the other side? What about the furtherest known galaxies awyf from us, 100 billion ligh years from us. The known universe is just so big, almost beyond human comprehension, yet it is as nothing. What if this universe was as a grain of sand amongs trillions upon trillins of other universes?
Suire some might scoff at the idea, but why? Even if this were true, could we hope to understand it. Please do not think that I am suggesting this is true; however, to limit the possibility of anything is to limit God. I have an inkling that there is NOTHING in this world that is going to prepare us for what is to come. I think it will far surpass even the grandiose speculation.
Right about now, I can't get past the beauty of rainbow, the sweet fragance of a flower, the aroma of fresh cut hey and the sound of wind in the trees. Kind of puts things into perspetive, hey. :)
Great discussion,
Love in Christ,
Darren
Kat:
Hi Gena,
I saw this in your post.
--- Quote ---What is the purpose of being a family if we are in a spiritual vastness called "all in all".
--- End quote ---
Maybe if I can share what I think about this it will help you. To be "all in all" is when all come to be perfectly one with the Father. Here is a scripture that shows we are to be 'one' with the Father, as Jesus and the Father are one.
John 17:21 that they all may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I in You, that they also may be one in Us,
The Elect are now in the process of being made into the image of God, so when we are born into the kingdom, we will become perfectly one with Christ and the Father.
John 17:23 I in them, and You in Me, that they may be made perfect in one;
Jesus was perfectly one with the Father on earth and everything He did was exactly according to the Father's will. But Jesus Christ is a separate being from the Father, even as they are 'one,' He came from the Father.
John 16:28 I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father.
So anyone born into the kingdom at the first resurrection will also be perfectly 'one' with the Father as Jesus christ is. But we will remain separate beings with our own personality, even as Christ is one with the Father, He is not the Father.
When all of mankind is brought into the kingdom to be one with the Father, then we will have "all in all."
1Co 15:28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
I hope that was of some help :)
I also have a couple of emails from Ray concerning the life on other planets.
http://www.forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,1488.0.html ----------------
peace,
Is it possible that God has at some time created life on other planets?
Christian
Dear Christian: Well, certainly not in our Solar System. No planet in our Solar System can sustain life. For what purpose would there be life on other planets? Jesus died for the sins of "the WORLD," not the sins of interstellar space.
God be with you,
Ray
http://www.forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,3621.0.html ---------------
> Hi Ray, I stumbled upon your website and have spent the last couple of days
> glued to it as it's interesting stuff. In reply to someones email concerning
> aliens/UFO's you made this statement.
>
> "There are no alien beings that live on planets and have perfected
> interstellar space travel."
>
> Can you quote any scripture to prove this? If not, what is this statement
> based on?
>
> Thanks Azza.
Dear Azza:
The statement is based on science/astronomy, and the Scriptures.
Jesus died for the sins of the "world," not the sins of the "universe."
Eve is the "mother of all living," etc., etc., etc.
I should think that all people know that interstellar space travel is
physically impossible. Even traveling at millions of miles an hour,
there are very few places that one could go in less than a thousand years!
Everything is TOO FAR AWAY.
God be with you,
Ray
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mercy, peace and love
Kat
Sue Creamer:
Darren,
I am with you, so much to enjoy now here on this earth...!
Kat,
Ray points out there is no way "humans" can visit or live out there in the great universe, but a thought came across to me that as a spirit being it may be possible....!!! If in spirit we retain our identities and our personalities I am sure our "curiosities" about God's creation will not be satiated until we view it all.
Indianbob....yes I guess your statement "inquiring minds want to know" fits just where I am. I am sure the time will come soon when we will all be in the know.
Thank you all..
peace
Sue Ann
Kat:
Hi Sue Ann,
I think Ray's emails comments were directed towards the idea that God has human life on other planets at this time. Now what may be possible for this human race, once they are spirit being, I certainly believe involves this rest of God's creation :)
I think Darren had it right when he said, I have an inkling that there is NOTHING in this world that is going to prepare us for what is to come. I think it will far surpass even the grandiose speculation.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
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