Dear Ray
What started out as an email for you turned into an exciting Bible study for me. I truly didn’t know all these things until I was shown. And to think I was almost tempted to pass this opportunity by to be taught of the Lord as I wrote to you. It truly is more blessed to give than to receive, for in giving you do receive.
I thought you might like to see where this study has taken me so far, unless that is that you have concluded against my hope that I am a heretic. Whatever the case may be, may our Lord’s will be done.
This is what I have written so far.
After writing this email to Ray, I was left feeling that the Lord was accomplishing a 3 fold purpose in it. Firstly He opened my understanding to many scriptures that divided soul and spirit in a way I had never known until writing the email to Ray. Secondly, he desired to open Rays understanding to these truths as well, thus having mercy on us and showing us both a more excellent way. Praise you Lord for you lovingkindness toward us your children.
My purpose for continuing to write is that I felt the door was still open to understanding many other scriptures in light of this revelation and I wanted to note down before the light in me was turned off again.
The first verse that comes to mind is 1 Corinthians 15:45 which says:
And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit . 1Co 15:45
Wow, were not both Adams (First and Last, living Soul and quickening Spirit) in Christ Jesus. Lets now look to the time after Christ’s ressurrection where we see that He had an appointment in Heaven as shown in His words, “I have not yet ascended to the Father�. Let us ask the question “Who was it that had not ascended to the Father? Was it Christ (The Last Adam, a quickening spirit)? No! For He ascended to the Father when he commited His Spirit (which is Christ, the Last Adam, Son of God) into the Father’s hands. It was Jesus body (The First Adam, living soul, Son of Man) whom had not yet ascended to the Father just as it is written in Psalms 16:10:
For thou wilt not leave my soul (First Adam, living Soul, Son of Man) in hell (the grave); neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One (Last Adam, quickening Spirit which is Christ, Son of God) to see corruption(the pit). Psa 16:10
Another verse that comes to to mind is 1 Corinthians 15:22 which says:
For as in Adam (First Adam, living Soul, Son of Man) all die (I am crucified with Christ), even so in Christ (Last Adam, a quickening Spirit, Son of God) shall all be made alive. 1Co 15:22
What has just now come to mind again is that theif whom was crucified with Christ . He was also made alive IN Christ(Last Adam, a quickening Spirit, Son of God). The theif’s soul (as did Jesus’s for 3 days) went to the grave, and will be ressurrected at the last trump.
What this all seems to be leading to is that we can be made alive (have our consciousness) IN the Spirit, just like John (Rev 1:10) and many others in the scriptures. Lets just look at this following verse which says:
He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it. Mat 10:39
I looked up this verse in the Strong’s and it appears that it should read something like this:
He that finds his soul (First Adam, living Soul, Son of Man life) shall perish (in the grave): and he that destroys his soul (First Adam, living Soul, Son of Man life) on account of Me 1752, 1700 (Last Adam, a quickening spirit which is Christ, Son of God) shall find it. Mat 10:39
It seems to be that this theif is a picture given to us of those whose soul (First Adam, living Soul, Son of Man life) is crucified as his was, and Jesus says to such ones “Today you shall be with me (Last Adam, a quickening Spirit, Son of God) in paradise.�
I would go so far as to say that this seems to be the first death (to soul) and the second death which will not affect us is the grave because our life at this point will not be in the First Adam’s living Soul but in the Last Adam’s quickening Spirit. This would suggest that the first death has to be accomplished now and our life hid with Christ in God as it is written:
For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God. Col 3:3
Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord . Rom 6:11
Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead , and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God. Rom 6:13
Dear Ray, I am sure that my study is not over (Praise the Lord) and as I continue to understand more I will certainly share it with you, that is unless you would prefer me not to. And this is not at all to suggest that you (by His guidance) could not know it apart from me. The question is are you willing? Only the Lord knows your heart, so I will continue by faith to share, taking you at your word that you stand for “Exposing those who Contradict� the Lord and His Truth.
May he bless you with eyes to see.
Yours sincerely my brother
Suz
Dear Suz:
Not that I can't learn from others, I can, but it would take me hours to try and sort out and scripturally explain all of the contradictions and failure to make distinctions in different words which mean different things. Jesus Christ did NOT go to His Father in Heaven on the day that He died. The spirit in Christ that kept Him alive in His body went back to His Father--JESUS DID NOT GO BACK TO HIS FATHER. Jesus died and was burried in a tomb. The angels told the women that "JESUS" left the tomb, not just "the body of Jesus."
God be with you,
Ray
PS I am sorry, but I cannot carry on one-on-one correspondences with individuals involving lengthy topics and multiple emails. Hope you understand.